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kimharvie

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Hi, I was diagnosed type 2 last week after having routine blood tests for hypertension, called in for results and nurse told me hb1ac was 10.3 and i was therefore type 2 diabetic. she then said i was to cut out all sugars and starch in my diet , exercise more and to come back in 3 months for further blood test, when it would be decided if i needed medication or not. bye bye! Needless to say I've been very shocked by this, but more so by the lack of information / advice given to me. After searching web found this site and am very thankful for all the information I have so far found. I went back to see practice nurse yesterday to ask her about any help I might find in the area, about seeing a dietician (after all I've got a lifetime of eating habits to
change I'm also a massive chocoholic!) and I also asked her about self testing and getting strips on prescription. all she said was that i needed to stick to a diet and that she didn't know of any groups around here, and that I didn't need to self test. I pushed my case and quoted NICE guidelines so now I've an appointment next week to see GP. can't believe that practice has no information to give out to newly diagnosed patients. Without this site I would have been completely lost and in despair. Still trying to get my head around it all and the changes I've got to make.
 
Good for you!

Remember that the NICE guidelines don't say that all Type 2's should get strips only those who would benefit from them after being "educated" for want of a better term.

My attitude would be to bypass that by starting a food diary today. Record what you eat and show you are taking it all seriously. If it still doesn't work (it didn't for me) then if you can afford to buy your own meter do so. The SD Codefree one off eBay is by far the best bet at the moment. Start doing readings then take them along with your food diary to the next appointment and try again cos at that point you have done exactly what the NICE guidelines intend imo.

Good Luck
 
Hi Kimharvie and welcome!
Daisy will be along soon with dietary advice for new members which is great advice, so do read that. In general terms you will need to reduce the total number of carbohydrates you eat per day. All carbohydrates turn to sugar when we eat them, and no type 2 diabetic on diet only, or on diet and metformin only, can control their blood sugars (BGs) without controlling their carb intake. Even those on strong medication normally choose to control their carb intake to keep the level of medication they take down. The total number of carbs per day you can eat depends on how advanced your diabetes is. It’s perhaps worth starting at about 50% of normal levels for a non-diabetic then adjusting up or down according to how you get on. Thats 125 grams a day for a woman. You can read the total carb content of food under “nutritional info” on the packet or wrapping, or look it up on the internet for loose food. Just google “carb content..”
You also need to stop or reduce the bad carbs; that is the starchy ones that make your BG go up quickly.
So obviously no sugar or glucose! But also no white bread, white rice, pasta, flour products like pastry, cake and batter. You can eat a little basmati rice, wholewheat pasta or the tri-color pasta fusilli ones in small quantities. Boiled new potatos are OK but not old pots mashed, boiled or in their jackets. (Roast is not so bad, the fat slows their absorption and conversion to glucose in the blood) Amongst other veg, parsnips are about the worst for BG, and carrots not great but ok in smaller amounts.
Multi grain bread (not wholemeal) is not SO bad, but lots of us eat Burgen soya and linseed bread from tescos and sainsburys, although all bread should be in limited amounts.
All fruit has carbohydrates, and needs to be included in the amounts of carbs you eat in a day. For most people, bananas are about the worst for pushing our BG up and berries (like strawberries, raspberries etc) are the least bad.
No sweeties!
Exercise is important. I tend to exercise about an hour after eating when I know my BG will be peaking. This helps to bring it down quicker and further. I do ten minutes hard work on an exercise machine, but you could run up and down stairs for ten minutes or go for a brisk walk.
Returning to types of food and quantities of carbs - you can only find out how many you can eat by testing. Most type 2’s are not given access to testing equipment, so you should get your own – although try arguing with your Doc that you want to manage to NICE guideline blood sugar levels, and can’t do that without testing! If you have to buy a meter, they are cheap and most manufacturers will give them away for free. They make their money on the strips you have to use! So go for the meter with the cheapest testing strips. Some people test before and after eating, on waking (fasting test) and before bed. But if you have limited strips because of cost, the key to me is testing 2 hours after eating. If your BG is above, say, 7.8 at that stage, you need to cut down on the carb content the next time you have that meal. Test after various different meals and you soon get to see a pattern of what you can and can’t eat, and in what quantities. You can then reduce your testing. I said “below, say, 7.8” because NICE guidelines are below 8.5 but most of us think that’s a little high. 7.8 is the max. Level at 2 hours after eating that a non-diabetic normally gets to so is perhaps a better target. Some then set progressively lower targets.
Do ask lots of questions; there is normally an answer on here. The more you get to learn about your diabetes, the better it will be.
Good luck!
 
Hi Kim and welcome to the forum I see you have already received lots of good advice. Here is some more, which we give to new members. I hope this helps you and that you will ask as many questions as you need until you are confident that you can look after your diabetes as well as possible.

 
Welcome to the forum Kim
 
Thanks Andy. Appreciate that. Might make it a regular reply to new members!
 
Grazer said:
Might make it a regular reply to new members

I think you definitely should!

You have included so much great information and advice which is helpful to everyone.

Should make it into a leaflet for the NHS to give out instead of their outdated rubbish.
 

HEAR< HEAR! :clap:
 
...and you can still have 85% Dark Chocolate which is quite low carb and you do get used to the different taste from Milk chocolate
 
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