The Ideal Diet?

Orchid

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Mmmmm! that's a new soup for me to try. Wow the thought of coconut milk in a soup, sounds really nice and the chicken tikka slices, yeah...sounds greats! Will try that one this week.

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Orchid said:
Hi Saz1

For your cold - you need a lovely pot of chicken soup. Buy a ready roasted chicken, or even just a portion if its only for yourself, and strip off the meat. Heat a tablespoon of olive oil and fry a chopped onion for a few minutes, add any other veg you want (all chopped smallish), add chicken and some chicken stock (made with stock cubes will do), salt and pepper, some dried herbs (or fresh if you have them), my only secret naughty ingredient would be to add about a teaspoon of sherry - lets fact it, its going to get spread into a big pot of soup! I hope I don't get banned from the site for suggesting that :wink:

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The only reason you might get banned is for only using a teaspoonful!! :lol: :lol:
 

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There is only 0.4 gm of carbs per 25ml of Dry sherry so you could have 5 teaspoons in the soup!!Sweet sherry has the most at 2gm per 25 mls.
 

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Oh the soup was absolutely delish! And it is so easy and quick to do so I'll be having some of those slices in the freezer in case of emergency. Coconut milk is gorgeous anyway and low carb so Thai curries, here I come! And I bet it would be nice in a cheesecake too with strawberry sauce... And in a cake as the fluid... So many options... I once made hot chocolate from 50-50 mix of cows milk and coconut milk with a couple of squares of 81% chocolate and that was lovely too.
 

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Hi nanoo

Like you I was diagnosed about 6 years ago and 'got by' on Metformin and exercise(not enough!) then progressed on to gliclicide(?) for a few weeks until my liver specialist banned it. My GP put me on twice daily insulin (Novomix 30) until about 4 weeks ago when my blood sugar was out of control despite injecting 40 units twice daily. He changed my insulin regime to 40 units of Levermir (slow acting) before bed and 8 - 10 units of Novorapid before each meal. I switched to a low carb diet at the same time as the change in regime and the results are amazing. My average fasting blood sugar has dropped from 7.8 to 6.0, despite reducing my Levermir to 30 units over a 3 week period, and my overall average has dropped from 9.3 to 7.6. I have replaced potatoes with squash mashed with cream or creme fraiche and find that it is so low in carbs that it does not spike my BS but it does fill me.
Tomorrow I am baking 'bread' using Fergus's recipe and will report my opinion back to this forum. All the best
Phil
 

Trim

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GI , GL and Paul McKenna diets are very good. But why just diet when new gizmos like Endobarrier are on the horizon put pressure on your doctors and MP's to progress such and you can have both. A belt and braces way to better health and lower weight. :D
 

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I think I know the answer to this and I have put this on another post. I am new here and newly diagnosed. I bought a book on how to reverse Type 2 and it is basically a vegan diet with complex carbs as the staple!
I have been on it for a week now and today my blood (after eating homemade lentil curry with brown rice) registered at nearly 15 :?
Should I ditch this diet and go for the low carb :oops:
 

saz1

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Samcogle, I think you are answering your own question here. Obviously the vegan diet you are following isn't suitable for you. If you want to improve your sugars down to safe levels, you have to change the way you eat... I saw radical improvement once I started to restrict my carb intake. I now maintain non diabetic sugars for most of the time.
 

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saz1 said:
Samcogle, I think you are answering your own question here. Obviously the vegan diet you are following isn't suitable for you. If you want to improve your sugars down to safe levels, you have to change the way you eat... I saw radical improvement once I started to restrict my carb intake. I now maintain non diabetic sugars for most of the time.
Yep, I think you are right...weirdly I was enjoying it, but I am going to have to rethink and get rid of the amount of carbs I am eating...thank you :D
Time for more test strips!!
 

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Hi Trim,

I know from previous discussions about the EndoBarrier that you are very keen on the idea, but please don't get your hopes up too high. There are 2 immediate problems. Firstly the product is still in phase 1 trials in the US. It has to go through 3 phases of trials and, as part of the trial is to show that usage has no long-term ill effects, it is likely to be at least 2 years before it is approved for use. In the UK we tend not to test this sort of thing ourselves as such tests are very expensive. We normally rely on the US to spend their cash on testing, then we approve it after it has been available for a year in the US. Second is the cost. It is estimated to cost $7500 per treatment (£5168 at today's exchange rate). Considering that PCTs won't approve a £13 pack of test strips, how do you think they will feel about shelling out the equivalent in cost to 33 years worth of test strips!
 

Trim

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Thanks Dennis
I think two years for widespread use of the endobarrier in the UK is wildly optimistic it will be more like ten :( . Widespread use will dramatically lower the costs and as reported on the news the 'epidemic' of weight complications continues to grow alarmingly and expensively costing 10% of the national health budget. Most dieticians and doctors seem to me to be behind the times rubbishing low carb and praising low fat. Even so to me a "sensible eating plan" is still a diet that restricts what one can eat, which is why so many fall by the wayside. :( This is why I think something like the endobarrier will be a literal life saviour for so many people.
Regards Alan