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The Men Who made us Fat.

zolabud

zolabud

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Location
Lewes. Near B right on. East Sussex.
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
Whelks,winkles... All crustaceous seafood except prawns. Can't do crab.lobster or scallops.
Don't like the way they are killed and cooked. Save our Scallops. SOS !!!
Also HATE evaporated milk.
Not particularly diabetic related but very interesting anyway.
Available on the BBC I Player until Friday 23rd August.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... Episode_2/

Jacques Peretti investigates how the concept of 'supersizing' changed our eating habits forever. How did we - once a nation of moderate eaters - start to want more? Speaking to Mike Donahue, former McDonalds Vice President, Peretti explores the history behind the idea of supersizing. 40 years ago, McDonalds hired David Wallerstein, a former cinema manager who had introduced the idea of selling larger popcorn servings in his Chicago cinema. Wallerstein realised that people would eat more but they did not like the idea of appearing gluttonous by going back for seconds. By increasing the portion sizes and the cost, he could sell more food. In 1972, he introduced the idea to McDonalds and their first large fries went on sale. By the 1980s, we were eating more - and we were also eating more often. Perretti speaks with industry professionals to examine the story behind the introduction of value meals, king-size snacks and multi-buy promotions. How did the advertising industry encourage us to eat more often? The programme also explores the developments in dietary advice. By 2003, the Chief Medical Officer was warning of an 'obesity time bomb.' Peretti speaks to obesity expert Professor Philip James, who made recommendations in his 1996 report that the food industry should cease targeting children in their advertisements. He also speaks with Professor Terry Wilkin, who led a pioneering study into childhood weight gain; and former Labour MP David Hinchliffe, who chaired the 2003 Parliamentary Select Committee on Health.
 
zolabud said:
Not particularly diabetic related but very interesting anyway.
Available on the BBC I Player until Friday 23rd August.

Jacques Peretti investigates how the concept of 'supersizing' changed our eating habits forever. How did we - once a nation of moderate eaters - start to want more? Speaking to Mike Donahue, former McDonalds Vice President, Peretti explores the history behind the idea of supersizing. 40 years ago, McDonalds hired David Wallerstein, a former cinema manager who had introduced the idea of selling larger popcorn servings in his Chicago cinema. Wallerstein realised that people would eat more but they did not like the idea of appearing gluttonous by going back for seconds. By increasing the portion sizes and the cost, he could sell more food. In 1972, he introduced the idea to McDonalds and their first large fries went on sale. By the 1980s, we were eating more - and we were also eating more often. Perretti speaks with industry professionals to examine the story behind the introduction of value meals, king-size snacks and multi-buy promotions. How did the advertising industry encourage us to eat more often? The programme also explores the developments in dietary advice. By 2003, the Chief Medical Officer was warning of an 'obesity time bomb.' Peretti speaks to obesity expert Professor Philip James, who made recommendations in his 1996 report that the food industry should cease targeting children in their advertisements. He also speaks with Professor Terry Wilkin, who led a pioneering study into childhood weight gain; and former Labour MP David Hinchliffe, who chaired the 2003 Parliamentary Select Committee on Health.
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It's down to the individual doing the eating! When I was living in the US I went to many 'eat as much as you like' places. I noticed customers piling up their plates on the first visit to the food counter even though they could have gone back for more, for free, later on.....most of them did, anyway, by the way. I simply put a normal amount of food on the plate and ate just that ... it didn't matter to me that I wasn't getting value from eating as much as I could stuff in. If you buy a large kebab (which I'm sure you wouldn't) would you stop eating when full and save or bin the rest or would you force it all down simply because you paid for it?

It's no revelation that companies which market products have a target audience in mind. Otherwise, all these companies would not exist and nor would jobs, or economies for that matter.
 
I don't eat out much and I may have a kebab maybe once a year. I always order a lamb kebab which has cubes of lamb and don't eat the bread it comes in. Still go for the garlic mayo though....

The only time I have ever had an 'all you can eat' type menu is when I went to The Harvester with my daughter in law and the Grandkids.

Josh had a large coke. When you buy the first one at full price (it was expensive I thought) he could drink as much as he wanted for free afterwards.
I had a cup of tea. No deal on that though and that was expensive too.

We all filled the small plates with the 'free' salad. A huge array of salad stuff with about 8 different sauces,mayos... They even had bacon bits which went down really well with the grandchildren.

As many really nice white rolls as you could eat ( This was before my diabetes diagnosis)

The meals we ordered took about 15 minutes and we were all starving we all ate salad beforehand.

As my appetite is easily sasciated I found that when my ribs and chicken arrived I had eated enough already and I wasn't hungry anymore.

With difficulty I ate my ribs and chicken and the only thing I left was the baked potatoe.

When we went back a couple of months later I didn't eat any salad beforehand. I just waited for my main meal.

I left feeling a bit cheesed off that we had spent a fair bit of cash and I hadn't eaten enough. But the meal was enough for me without the 'free' salad bowl.

I completely understand the notion of larger meals for a better price. It just doesn't suit me.

I'm glad I don't live in America though... I have a friend who went there recently and she said the portions were HUGE.
 
zolabud said:
I don't eat out much and I may have a kebab maybe once a year. I always order a lamb kebab which has cubes of lamb and don't eat the bread it comes in. Still go for the garlic mayo though....

The only time I have ever had an 'all you can eat' type menu is when I went to The Harvester with my daughter in law and the Grandkids.

Josh had a large coke. When you buy the first one at full price (it was expensive I thought) he could drink as much as he wanted for free afterwards.
I had a cup of tea. No deal on that though and that was expensive too.

We all filled the small plates with the 'free' salad. A huge array of salad stuff with about 8 different sauces,mayos... They even had bacon bits which went down really well with the grandchildren.

As many really nice white rolls as you could eat ( This was before my diabetes diagnosis)

The meals we ordered took about 15 minutes and we were all starving we all ate salad beforehand.

As my appetite is easily sasciated I found that when my ribs and chicken arrived I had eated enough already and I wasn't hungry anymore.

With difficulty I ate my ribs and chicken and the only thing I left was the baked potatoe.

When we went back a couple of months later I didn't eat any salad beforehand. I just waited for my main meal.

I left feeling a bit cheesed off that we had spent a fair bit of cash and I hadn't eaten enough. But the meal was enough for me without the 'free' salad bowl.

I completely understand the notion of larger meals for a better price. It just doesn't suit me.

I'm glad I don't live in America though... I have a friend who went there recently and she said the portions were HUGE.
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I persuaded 'her indoors to a lamb kebab just last night. At least one has a rough idea of what is in the lamb! I still have a nightmarish image of walking through Disneyland (a nightmare in itself!) and seeing massive people walking around with turkey legs in their mouths as if they were trying to play them. USA ads seem to think that the way to advertise food is to show close-ups of people shoving the food in .... gross!!! I even once saw a woman with a pushchair (yes ... walking!) and a coke bottle strapped to the handle with a long tube going into her toddler's mouth. A strange race. They sell ear syringing kits for children yet have never heard of Milton's anti-bacterial (at least not when I was there with a young child).
 
I watched a rather weird programme last week on my digi box. It was called Man versus Food.

This American chap trawls through America visiting various diners and each one of them has a truly gargantuan meal on their menu and if you can finish it within 1 hour you get another similar meal free and your name gets put up on the wall.

There was a similar thing done on The Men Who Made Us Fat.

In the American programme there was a meal called The Versuvias. It was stomach churningly big.

BIG plate started off with a layer of nacho chips. Then layer after layer of various meats and sauces to make a large 'mountain'. Then at the top a hole was made and baked beans were poured in and left to cascade down the sides to make the 'eruption' effect.

The guy didn't finish it... He was sweating profusely whilst the whole restauraint was cheering him on to finish it. All good telly I suppose but it made me feel sick.

There was a film called Stand By Me (I think) where there was a pie eating contest and this kid ate and ate and ate and vomited cherry
Pie all over the mayor etc.

So the eating contest is an all American thing that has been going on for years.
 
zolabud said:
I watched a rather weird programme last week on my digi box. It was called Man versus Food.

This American chap trawls through America visiting various diners and each one of them has a truly gargantuan meal on their menu and if you can finish it within 1 hour you get another similar meal free and your name gets put up on the wall.

There was a similar thing done on The Men Who Made Us Fat.

In the American programme there was a meal called The Versuvias. It was stomach churningly big.

BIG plate started off with a layer of nacho chips. Then layer after layer of various meats and sauces to make a large 'mountain'. Then at the top a hole was made and baked beans were poured in and left to cascade down the sides to make the 'eruption' effect.

The guy didn't finish it... He was sweating profusely whilst the whole restauraint was cheering him on to finish it. All good telly I suppose but it made me feel sick.

There was a film called Stand By Me (I think) where there was a pie eating contest and this kid ate and ate and ate and vomited cherry
Pie all over the mayor etc.

So the eating contest is an all American thing that has been going on for years.
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Ha! and it's spreading (if you'll pardon the pun). You can buy massive burgers etc. here as you will probably have seen. Mr Creosote comes to mind. Forgive the ad. and the language in the clip ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aczPDGC3f8U
 
Don't forget the complimentary wafer thin mint.

Mark
 
zolabud said:
Ha! and it's spreading (if you'll pardon the pun). You can buy massive burgers etc. here as you will probably have seen. Mr Creosote comes to mind. Forgive the ad. and the language in the clip ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aczPDGC3f8U

Like that clip Gezzathorpe....

Here's the pie eating contest clip from Stand By Me....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK0JaEde4VI
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"Lard ass-lard ass-lard ass-lard ass!!" lol Great film,great scene and great revenge on lard asses part!
 
Here's a clip of Man V Food.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5GaU6QfwU

I am hunting for the famous Versuvias....

Just found out it's called a Volcano.
Can't find the specific episode of Man versus Food but it has lots of folks on You Tube trying to do the same thing.
 
zolabud said:
Not particularly diabetic related but very interesting anyway.
Available on the BBC I Player until Friday 23rd August.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... Episode_2/

Jacques Peretti investigates how the concept of 'supersizing' changed our eating habits forever. How did we - once a nation of moderate eaters - start to want more? Speaking to Mike Donahue, former McDonalds Vice President, Peretti explores the history behind the idea of supersizing. 40 years ago, McDonalds hired David Wallerstein, a former cinema manager who had introduced the idea of selling larger popcorn servings in his Chicago cinema. Wallerstein realised that people would eat more but they did not like the idea of appearing gluttonous by going back for seconds. By increasing the portion sizes and the cost, he could sell more food. In 1972, he introduced the idea to McDonalds and their first large fries went on sale. By the 1980s, we were eating more - and we were also eating more often. Perretti speaks with industry professionals to examine the story behind the introduction of value meals, king-size snacks and multi-buy promotions. How did the advertising industry encourage us to eat more often? The programme also explores the developments in dietary advice. By 2003, the Chief Medical Officer was warning of an 'obesity time bomb.' Peretti speaks to obesity expert Professor Philip James, who made recommendations in his 1996 report that the food industry should cease targeting children in their advertisements. He also speaks with Professor Terry Wilkin, who led a pioneering study into childhood weight gain; and former Labour MP David Hinchliffe, who chaired the 2003 Parliamentary Select Committee on Health.
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Didn't see it but are these repeats?.....seem to remember discussing a similar programme last year :think:
 
Are they repeats? I can't recall having seen them. Last night's one was about how exercise doesn't actually help you to lose weight and therefore gym memberships are of no use.

Ali
 
Thats because this series is called "The Men Who Made Us Thin" and is new and looks at the diet industry.

Last year was "The Men Who Made Us Fat" at looked at the food industry generally, and is being repeated this month.
 
Well I haven't seen them before so you must forgive me posting them up.

I think they are all very interesting and there are quite a few on,on different channels.

I am learning lots and am very thirsty for knowledge....
 
Season 1 Episode 3 of 3
With one adult in four now classified as obese, Jacques Peretti sets out to discover why Britain is getting fatter. He examines assumptions about what is and is not healthy and discovers how product marketing can seduce consumers into buying supposedly healthy foods such as muesli and juice, both of which can be high in sugar. He also explores the impact of successive government initiatives and health campaigns, questioning whether things have really changed when high-profile events such as the Olympic Games are sponsored by drink and fast-food companies. Last in the series
Read more at http://www.tvguide.co.uk/detail.asp?id= ... JGZzoMp.99

The3 Men Who Made Us Fat. Part 3 on at 11.20 on BBC 2.

I will put a catch up tomorrow.....
 
Caught the last 10 mins and there was a guy emptying the contents of his stomach (via a tube) into a toilet :shock: He said by doing so he could get rid of 30% of the food he'd just eaten....
 
Vomiting after reading that could lose 30% of what I've eaten!:lol:
A very effective diet would be compulsory use of tube of you overeat. HUGE incentive to curtail. Only a matter of time befor Hollywood gets hold of it:grin:

Sent from the Diabetes Forum App
 
Thundercat said:
Vomiting after reading that could lose 30% of what I've eaten!:lol:
A very effective diet would be compulsory use of tube of you overeat. HUGE incentive to curtail. Only a matter of time befor Hollywood gets hold of it:grin:
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From what I gathered he said by doing so he could eat good size portions and not put on weight, if he has issues with food then I can see the logic but not something I would want to go through!
 
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