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the phone rang

Kurlyboy

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Hi Guys
Looks like I have become one of type 2 team members

The phone rang last night at 11pm T
The gent said he was a doctor from the local hospital saying that he had my blood sample that I had given yesterday morning
He was concerned that my sugar count rating was above 22 rather than the normal count of around 6 to7
This caused distraught within the house hold ,we looked up the problem on line & came to the conclusion that I have Type 2
I now have to wait for the local Health Centre to open on Monday to have the Doctor to confirm our diagnosis & the consequences
The major thing at the moment is what food & drink I am allowed
 
For the time being I'd say avoid all high sugar fruits & veg ( potatoes, bananas,grapes etc), white bread/ rice/ pasts , foods with obvious added sugar like sweets / biscuits / cake etc and limit the amount of bread/ cereals & alcohol until you see the medics
In the longer term I'd say look into reduced carbohydrate ways of eating ( ie under 100g carbs a day)
Good luck with your gp appt
 
daisy will be in touch I am sure, best wishes its not a death high level , but needs to be reduced ,in the mean time you could ,test your own levels by buying a meter from a local chemist , ask the chemist how to use it. test before you eat and 2 hours after if it goes above 8mmols avoid that food in the future. and do as use it says.
 
I wouldn't worry to much when I was first found to be diabetic my readings were 35 and the doctors still made me wait 3 months before I got any medication from the hospital specialist


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For the time being I'd say avoid all high sugar fruits & veg ( potatoes, bananas,grapes etc), white bread/ rice/ pasts , foods with obvious added sugar like sweets / biscuits / cake etc and limit the amount of bread/ cereals & alcohol until you see the medics
In the longer term I'd say look into reduced carbohydrate ways of eating ( ie under 100g carbs a day)
Good luck with your gp appt

11pm? It's rather a late time to ring - no wonder you were spooked. The advice from Badcat is spot-on and you'll find it helps a lot in lowering those levels.

If it helps, 22 on diagnosis isn't unusual - you'll read about quite a few on here who've gone higher than that and are still happily posting. Do some reading (the archived threads here are very useful) but take your time, as there's one hell of a lot to take in and we're all different - one size doesn't fit all.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.
 
it does rock your world as we all know but in few weeks with right advice you will be under control .. dont panic
 
Hi all, I to have just had a glucose tolerance test which produced a reading of 8, this does not mean a great deal to me & wondered how bad this actually is? I used to eat 2 or 3 chocolate bars a day which I cut out 3weeks ago when diabetes was suspected & wondered if you think this will be enough as my nurse said not, I'm not overweight & feel reasonably fit & just wondered how far I should go with diet changes & if a massive carb reduction is necessary on a result like mine, sorry about all the questions but you all seem to know a lot more than my gp!


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Hi all, I to have just had a glucose tolerance test which produced a reading of 8, this does not mean a great deal to me & wondered how bad this actually is? I used to eat 2 or 3 chocolate bars a day which I cut out 3weeks ago when diabetes was suspected & wondered if you think this will be enough as my nurse said not, I'm not overweight & feel reasonably fit & just wondered how far I should go with diet changes & if a massive carb reduction is necessary on a result like mine, sorry about all the questions but you all seem to know a lot more than my gp!


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Hi colinat. With a glucose reading of 8, I was diagnosed as type2 to be controlled through diet and exercise. Within 2 weeks I'm now scoring between 6.8 & 7.3 every morning. The key is to stop all sugar intake. Sugar is a poison! Reduce or eliminate carbohydrates. Keep well away from potatoes, pasta, breads and start doing some more exercise. By eliminating sugar, I have pretty much been able to forget about taking my asthma preventative inhaler. In my case it appears that my immune system had been affected by sugar intake. You should be able to get control of your situation. I'm already feeling very much better after just 2 weeks.
 
Welcome Kurleyboy. Don't panic. You're here to sort yourself out and you can do it.
 
Hi all, I to have just had a glucose tolerance test which produced a reading of 8, this does not mean a great deal to me & wondered how bad this actually is? I used to eat 2 or 3 chocolate bars a day which I cut out 3weeks ago when diabetes was suspected & wondered if you think this will be enough as my nurse said not, I'm not overweight & feel reasonably fit & just wondered how far I should go with diet changes & if a massive carb reduction is necessary on a result like mine, sorry about all the questions but you all seem to know a lot more than my gp!

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The results of your GTT shows that you have impaired glucose tolerance. (pre-diabetes).

See http://www.diabetes.co.uk/oral-glucose-tolerance-test.html for more information.

Briefly, your body is having difficulty coping with the amount of glucose being produced by the food you consume. This may be because you are producing insufficient insulin or the insulin you are producing is not working because your body is insulin resistant, or a bit of both. The longer your body is overloaded with glucose, the bigger the problem gets.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/insulin-resistance.html

Cutting out the chocolate bars is a good move. You might want to go further and restrict sugar and sugary foods. However, refined carbohydrates are quickly turned to glucose (sugar) after ingestion, so it would be sensible to also cut out or cut back on these to avoid or slow down progression to full-blown diabetes.

Refined carbohydrates include white bread or anything with white flour in the ingredients, potatoes (especially) mashed, pasta and white rice. In a nutshell, the more processed or refined a carbohydrate is - the quicker it is converted to glucose by the body.

Wholegrain versions of flour, rice and pasta take longer to convert to glucose, so switching to these types of food allows your now impaired insulin response to cope better. Whilst they may have the same level of carbohydrates as the refined versions, they are typically higher in fibre and are slower to convert to glucose. This will allow you to better match the insulin your body is capable of using to the food you eat, and keep your blood glucose levels in the safe zone.
 
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Hi Kurly
A similar thing happened to me I was phoned at 11 pm but I was asleep and my husband told the doctor who said I might go into a coma !!!! and needed to go to hospital as husband had drunk a couple of glasses of wine we would have had to get a taxi and the last thing you want to do is go to hospital on Friday night in a taxi! I was just about awake by then so I said I would not go that night so I was told that I was refusing treatment and it was life threatening (10 out of 10 for bedside manner ) Sense prevailed and I rand NHS the following morning who appologised for the doctors manner and made me an appointment to see someone that morning The GP that I saw then was brilliant he said the phone call should never have happened and I had probably had diabetes for some time and go to see my own GP on monday My BGs were 29 not fasting I am now down to around 7 due to the good advice on this forum and others Looking back it was a bit like a comedy farce but it was scary at the time
CAROL
 
daisy will be in touch I am sure, best wishes its not a death high level , but needs to be reduced ,in the mean time you could ,test your own levels by buying a meter from a local chemist , ask the chemist how to use it. test before you eat and 2 hours after if it goes above 8mmols avoid that food in the future. and do as use it says.

Hi Kurlyboy and welcome to the forum:)
Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Carry on asking questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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