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This low carb thingy is sooooo cool

baldtykde

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Hiya

I have just checked my sugar and yippee am down at 6.3 late in the day which is a fantastic result considering it was up in the high double figures only a week and a half ago when I joined the forum.

My new low carb lifestyle is going well and I have a lot more work to do but I am convinced the docs need a big heads up to alternatives other than just dishing the pills.

The doc and nurse I see have always promoted a high carb diet and have been pushing me onto pills, I was 11.1 at my last blood test but just a simple diet change has done more in a short time to help me than all the previous advice by the medics.

I am eating like a pig at the mo and loving every minute of it, I have more energy and am more focused than for years and to cap it all I am smiling more rather than being a miserable sod with high sugars.

Today I had a really wierd lunch at work, a full pack of ham, some colslaw and some pate. Now before anybody runs off to part company with their dinner it wasssss brillll,very filling, very tasty surprise surprise and most of all it didnt send my sugar sky high making me fall asleep in the afternoon at my desk as in previous times.

I guess what I'm trying to say in a round about way is if this diet can help even as a short term sugar reduction thingy why dont the medics promote it rather than hitting the prescription pad.

Just as a side story, I had a foot ulcer about 3 years ago which took months of treatment to clear and there is no way I am going to go backwards now and put myself at risk of further complications so it is onward and upward from now.

I have to say that this forum is a massive help to all sufferers because the people who know the most seem to be the people who have actual experience of this diabetes thing. I will be promoting this site till the cows come home and long may it reign.

Cheers

Tony
PS on this egg debate, I am in the more the merrier camp....cheese or mushrooms mmmmm delicious
 
Congrats on doing so well!

If you don't mind, I'm going to steal some of your "I'm having a fab day" vibes. I need some today.
 
Wow, it sounds like your doing really well and it's great that you're sooooo positive! I'm hoping a little will rub off on me too!
I just wanted to say one thing though, it may be great in the short term to cut out carbs completely to get your bg's down but once your sugars have stabilised you may get hit with some big fat hypo's if you're not eating the right carbs.
I did exactly the same as you during my first six months or so just so I could ge to the doc with some good readings but I really suffered for it afterwards. My rule of thumb re carbs is to never eat anything white. No rice, potatoes or white bread.
If you can get into brown pasta, bulgur wheat rather than rice and good heavy whole wheat bread just a little goes a long way and it will really help to stabilise your control. Even if it's just a few pasta swirls thrown in with a salad or just one piece of bread with your pate it will give you much better control over all.
Sorry if I sound like a know it all, I dont mean it like that. I can just see you think much as I did...the focus is on a low reading at all cost. As I learned though, slowly, slowly catchee monkee!!! You will learn from your own experience as we all do in the end! :D
 
I don't think that baldtykede is advocating a NO carb approach, just a lower/reduced carb diet. As a T2 on diet only and no meds there isn't much chance of getting a Hypo unless he starves himself ?

You are right about the Rice, Potatao and Bread. However an awful lot of Diabetics can't handle the carbs in Potato, Bread, Rice, Pasta and certain starchy Root Veg at all. Any of these whether White or Brown would rocket my Bg levels up. All carbs convert to glucose, just some more slowly than others ? I don't touch any of them.

Ken.
 
T1 husband went to the hospital diabetes clinic today and encountered a new registrar, who was delighted with his 6.8% HbA1c( his lowest in ages) and asked how much insulin he's currently using ( down to between 50 and 80 units per day from up to 150 plus) approved of the reduced carbs and said they don't need to see him for al least 6 months.
T1 says he expects she'll be toeing the high carb line by the time she's been there a few months. I do hope not
I have an appointment with the nurse for blood test results, later this afternoon. Already anxious that i haven't been good enough
 
baldtykde said:
Hiya

I have just checked my sugar and yippee am down at 6.3 late in the day which is a fantastic result considering it was up in the high double figures only a week and a half ago when I joined the forum.

My new low carb lifestyle is going well and I have a lot more work to do but I am convinced the docs need a big heads up to alternatives other than just dishing the pills.

The doc and nurse I see have always promoted a high carb diet and have been pushing me onto pills, I was 11.1 at my last blood test but just a simple diet change has done more in a short time to help me than all the previous advice by the medics.

I am eating like a pig at the mo and loving every minute of it, I have more energy and am more focused than for years and to cap it all I am smiling more rather than being a miserable sod with high sugars.

Today I had a really wierd lunch at work, a full pack of ham, some colslaw and some pate. Now before anybody runs off to part company with their dinner it wasssss brillll,very filling, very tasty surprise surprise and most of all it didnt send my sugar sky high making me fall asleep in the afternoon at my desk as in previous times.
I guess what I'm trying to say in a round about way is if this diet can help even as a short term sugar reduction thingy why dont the medics promote it rather than hitting the prescription pad.

Just as a side story, I had a foot ulcer about 3 years ago which took months of treatment to clear and there is no way I am going to go backwards now and put myself at risk of further complications so it is onward and upward from now.

I have to say that this forum is a massive help to all sufferers because the people who know the most seem to be the people who have actual experience of this diabetes thing. I will be promoting this site till the cows come home and long may it reign.

Cheers

Tony
PS on this egg debate, I am in the more the merrier camp....cheese or mushrooms mmmmm delicious

Problem is you are the only one working hard after lunch now!!!

Well done
 
baldtykde - that sounds great!

loudsally
Can you say a little more about your experience of the longer term bother of fixating on lowering the bg now, please? I'm not clear what I might expect from what you said, and I certainly am concentrating right now on lowering carbs to get to the GP with a success record! I'm not eliminating them completely. Did you? Any explanation would help!
 
just to clarify in case I confused anyone, I have set myself a short term daily target of 50g of carbs per day.

I was eating absolutely shed loads of carbs per day and my sugars were sky high each day and were in the very dangerous range and no matter what I tried my sugar wouldnt come down.

all of the advice I was given was telling me to hit the carbs but that was obviously wrong for me, it was only when I found this site and got the low carb advice that my sugar plummetted down.

I am going to hold at 50g for a month and then start to introduce some carbs one item at a time so that I can monitor any spikes. As it stands I am down in the 6's and am getting some steadiness although there is still a lot of work to do.

I am a positive person and can only see good results now but it is a job for life not just a month lol


Tone
 
cugila said:
I don't think that baldtykede is advocating a NO carb approach, just a lower/reduced carb diet. As a T2 on diet only and no meds there isn't much chance of getting a Hypo unless he starves himself.

You are right about the Rice, Potatao and Bread. However an awful lot of Diabetics can't handle the carbs in Potato, Bread, Rice, Pasta and certain starchy Root Veg at all. Any of these whether White or Brown would rocket my Bg levels up. All carbs convert to glucose, just some more slowly than others ? I don't touch any of them.

Ken.


I have found that Rice, Potatos, bread and pasta are complete no-nos. However, I recently found the bread "Nimble" and I have one slice either for breakfast (with scrambled eggs and a slice of bacon) or lunch with some roast chicken and sliced cucumber and have found that my 1 hour Bg is "just" 7 after breakfast or lunch, or slightly lower - I was totally amazed and now allow myself to enjoy a slice of bread every day with an easy mind. Not dared to try pasta, potatoes or rice yet, but I will try and re-introduce them in the next few months - just as a trial.


Alice
 
I tried Benfotiamine courtesy of a friend in the States. Quite frankly it has made no difference whatsoever to any of my Bg levels. My friend didn't have any luck with it either, another Diabetic.

If it works for you then great. I wonder how many people are taking it here and what effect if any it is actually having. At the moment you seem to be the only poster advocating it soundgen ?
 
Mine came in th epost this morning. BUUUUUUUUT - since I ordered it I've been put on Gliclazide (in addition to my 2g Metformin SR) and my sugar levels have never been better!

I'm gonna hold on to the B1 for trying later if my BG starts to creep up...
 
"I tried Benfotiamine courtesy of a friend in the States. Quite frankly it has made no difference whatsoever to any of my Bg levels. My friend didn't have any luck with it either, another Diabetic.

If it works for you then great. I wonder how many people are taking it here and what effect if any it is actually having. At the moment you seem to be the only poster advocating it soundgen ?"

I can accept what you say , I have only just been diagnosed , so haven't taken any other means to curb blood sugar , perhaps if you are or were already managing your blood sugar well you may not notice a BG drop when taking Benfotiamine , perhaps you have adequate Vitamin B1 in your diet or take B1 supplements and can absorb it ?. ( and are therefore still have this process operating http://tinyurl.com/mskdb7 )

BUT what you can't dispute is the wealth of information out there on Vitamin B in general ( see all the posted links ) , lack of thiamine is the root cause of all of the major affilictions affecting diabetics , neuropathy , retinopathy and nephropathy . ALL diabetics type 1 and type have a lack of Plasma thiamine due to extremely rapid removal by the kidneys ( see the latest links I posted on the Benfotiamine thread ) , I am not "pushing " Benfotiamine per se I just feel all diabetics should take B1 supplements , as ordinary B1or Benfotiamine , B1 does work for some as one person noted on the thread that a friends retinopathy got much better after taking it , I have a fairly good diet with what I would reckon is an adequate amount of B1 and still got neuropathy , the Benfotaimine has reversed this . another link I posted stated that Benfotiamine raise the Plasma levels of B1 much much more than ordinary B1

Someone posted that in Germany Benfotiamine is prescribed to all Diabetics I read on the Diabetes.org site that every year in the UK , 1,000 more diabetics have to undergo renal dialysis , it would be intersting to see how many people this happens to in Germany , does anyone know how tofind out ?

Blindness , dialysis and leg amputations are where no one wants to go , so I for one am going to continue with B1 in this form . wee need Thiamine in our blood and if this is the only way I can get it , so be it !
 
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