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Thye call this Science!!!!!

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Martin Muurling put obese mice on different diets in which the total energy intake and the final body weight were the same. He then studied the effect of these diets on insulin sensitivity.
Mice that received just low-fat products were more sensitive to insulin than mice that ate small portions of high fat food. A low-fat diet is, therefore, a more effective remedy for diabetes than eating fewer calories.
And this is Science!!! :evil:
Where is the controlled examination od a single variable?
How can you deduce a Remedy from this?
 
Is there any similarity between a mouse's physical make up and a humans at all!!I just feel sorry for the mice.When the rodents finally take over the world we are all going to be stuck in cages having God knows what done to us!! :D
 
Hitch hiker's guide to the galaxy Sue?
 
My memories a little fuzzy, it's either age, diabetes or I could just be stupid (!) but does diabetes cause a second head growth too, it's yet to happen to me and I can't really see the upside. Check out my blog Google notintherightbody :roll:
 
in my opinion at least there doing something!! gotta start somewhere you never no this could be taken into detail and another experiement may be carried out to find more out x
 
Yet again this seems to be an experiment (and from a scientific standpoint an extremely poorly conducted one) that is looking at symptoms rather than cause. He started off with obese mice, so what about instead trying proving the causes of obesity? That would mean there wouldn't be any insulin resistance to overcome! Or is this yet another experiment funded by a body with a vested interest in treating existing diabetes (very profitable) rather than preventing it in the first place (no profit whatsoever)?
 
I have taught 11 year-olds to identify a single variable and test it against a control. How come medics can't do that?
 
Or is this yet another experiment funded by a body with a vested interest in treating existing diabetes (very profitable) rather than preventing it in the first place (no profit whatsoever)?
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No, it is part of the work (several studies seem to follow a similar theme) that he did with others as part of his Phd studies.
This is the abstract of what is seems to be the relevant study.(rather than a press release) The study appears to have a control and manipulates only the feeding. Mice have the advantage of coming cheap, in genetically identical batches, whether you think that an animal model is useful and predictive of human physiology is obviously open to debate.
http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/ymeta/article/PIIS0026049502448603/abstract
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Supported by the Netherlands Organisation for Scientific Research (NWO) and the Netherlands Heart Foundation (Project 980-10-006 and 97067, respectively
 
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