whompa73 said:Is It me or is being diagnosed with diabetes a bit like finding out the entire world is a lier. Dont get me wrong I apreciate all the help. It just that everything that I thought was proper to do is no longer the right thing to do and in some ways could be harmfull. I will get there but is gona take a while. As fr carbs I was thinking arround 90 to 130 I think thats low isnt it?
whompa73 said:Is It me or is being diagnosed with diabetes a bit like finding out the entire world is a lier. Dont get me wrong I apreciate all the help. It just that everything that I thought was proper to do is no longer the right thing to do and in some ways could be harmfull. I will get there but is gona take a while. As fr carbs I was thinking arround 90 to 130 I think thats low isnt it?
whompa73 said:Ok last week when I was diagnosed with diabetes I was told to stay away from bananas yet on the very poorly written diet sheet I was issued it says bananas are good. Now I am trying to go down the low carbs route and I realise that bananas may be high in carbs but and I right in thinking we do actually need at least some in our diet. I think they are also high in sugar aswell which I can see could be a bad combination. Guess the questions I am asking are 1. Are bananas conducive to a low carb diet 2. Should I eat on own or with somthing like bite size shreded wheet (which also has some carbs in it but very low in if not no sugar ) with almond milk . 3 should I not be having either. Soooooo confused pls help
whompa73 said:Well guess I now no the answer. Before breakfast 9.2 bg after (2 hours) 13.9. Ok I had a verry lazy morning but still !. What do you guys think?
whompa73 said:I think for the moment being so new to diabetes that I should try and stay away from such bg spikes. I do love bananas and will try again when I have better controll
Yorksman said:whompa73 said:I think for the moment being so new to diabetes that I should try and stay away from such bg spikes. I do love bananas and will try again when I have better controll
Things do settle down yes. Be stricter in the beginning and limit your foods types so you can get a better understanding of what is going on. Once you see a picture, then you can experiement a little. Many things contribute to higher or lower readings. If you get into the swing of exercising, you'll find that foods on your 'banned list' are suddenly OK to eat. Just keep at it. many people find that, 6 months on, life is easier to understand
gezzathorpe said:Yorksman said:If I assume that I have been diabetic only since diagnosis (5 years) as I can't go back any further than that, then, if my spiking is bad, would you expect me, by now, to be experiencing complications of one sort or the other and having a higher HbA1C?
Yorksman said:gezzathorpe said:Yorksman said:If I assume that I have been diabetic only since diagnosis (5 years) as I can't go back any further than that, then, if my spiking is bad, would you expect me, by now, to be experiencing complications of one sort or the other and having a higher HbA1C?
Plasma glucose doesn't bind to haemoglobin easily. If a diabetic were to eat white bread regularly, couple of slices of toast for breakfast, sandwiches at lunch, a couple of slices at tea time and then just a quick cheese and ham toastie for supper, those 4 spikes would push up the average for the day and, if repeated day in day out, that would result in an increase in HBA1c levels.
Your figures seem low anyway and are much better than these taken from a study. The first column is time in minutes, the second is white bread and the third is glucose. The data is an average of the sample set. The starting values, in mmol/L are fasting blood glucose levels so, as you can see, firmly within the diabetic range whereas your starting figure of 5.0 is well within the normal range.
0 8.3 7.9
30 11.1 12.9
60 12.9 14.9
90 13.0 13.5
120 12.2 11.7
150 10.9 10.0
180 10.0 8.7
You also come down a lot quicker that these diabetics who, even after 2.5 hours, are not at their [high] starting point. By the time they get back to their starting point, it's time for the next meal and, if they repeat it, you can see that it will be permanently above the normal range.
gezzathorpe said:Thanks for this. Didn't appreciate that white bread and glucose were so similar (ish). I wonder if my 9.2 at +1:00 versus 12.9 (white bread) & 14.9 (glucose) is 'normal' then. I know I could lower HbA1C by reducing spiking, but do I need to bother if, thus far, bloods, BP, weight, eyes etc. after 5 years (or more possibly)?
Yorksman said:gezzathorpe said:Thanks for this. Didn't appreciate that white bread and glucose were so similar (ish). I wonder if my 9.2 at +1:00 versus 12.9 (white bread) & 14.9 (glucose) is 'normal' then. I know I could lower HbA1C by reducing spiking, but do I need to bother if, thus far, bloods, BP, weight, eyes etc. after 5 years (or more possibly)?
Yes, it's quite remarkable. It came as a shock to me when I discovered it. They don't tell you that at the NHS.
As long as you don't do it too often and as long as it is under 11, it ought to be OK. Your start level and finish levels for the bread are within the normal range. You can see for the diabetic patients, everything is higher and takes longer. You didn't give your start and finish figures for the OGTT. Are they too in the normal range?
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