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Total Newbie Not just to diet but to diabetes

AvaK

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I'll apologise in advance for long and rambling post. I was diagnosed barely two weeks past and that was only after going to new docs regarding wanting new meds for migraines. She wanted bloods done and I got a rather urgent sounding phone call the very next evening asking me to go to surgery the next day as some results were in and it showed I was diabetic. On seeing the doc she put me on metaformin, and also statins as cholestoral is high too and gave me the speech bout eating wholemeal bread, baked potatoes etc and as I'm overweight saying to lose weight. Well, in the past whenever I've lost weight I've only ever been able to do that by cutting carbs so I was in despair and then while chatting to a friend online who had gestational diabetes and is in US she said no, carbs are bad and went on to try and explain about glucose etc and tell me I had to test etc. I've signed up for the Type 2 Testing thingie and now waiting on that to arrive. I asked at docs to see the nurse - they didn't offer me this - and when I saw her well, what can I say, she had me in and out in less than five mins, giving me a couple of leaflets and telling me that she'd check my sugars - wait for it - twice a year, in Dec and June! How am I supposed to know if I'm doing things right and keeping things under control? To say I'm anxious about all of this is putting it mildly especially when I'm getting diff information, although to be honest, the info here seems to be the only one making any kind of sense! I have other health issues, including Fibro, joint issues etc, so I can't exactly go run a marathon and exercise is limited to days when I can walk the dogs, or on good days I use the exercise bike, but the main thing is trying to get to grips with understanding diabetes, getting it under control, or as much as I can, what's the best diet for me to use to help with weight loss etc? Any advice and help is very greatly appreciated and again, sorry for the long post.
 
Thank you will do that
I too got a shock 5 months ago and I was so overweight that I couldn´t hardly do any sports, my feet hurting and my hips, but I started walking as much as I could every second day in the beginning and went 1000 calories a day, because I needed to loose weight and live long enough to se my daugther fully grown and having a good life...

it was hardest the first 2 weeks... and then I went low carbing when finding this forum and stopped eating from 19 o´clock in the evening untill next day at 12 o´clock as those many hours of not eating is helping ones insuline down and then makes it more easy to loose weight...

now my body doesn´t hurt as much as it did then and I go to a fitness 3 days a week
 
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Definitely echo the low-carb suggestions. You will start to feel better quite quickly and have much more energy for your exercise bike. And treat yourself to a blood glucose meter. It will help you get a better handle on your diabetes control.
 
Hi Avak,
I've only been diagnosed about 8 weeks, its all a bit daunting at first, but stick with this forum and you will learn a lot. As for dieting, I've lost about a stone and a half so far (don't have an exact figure as due to be weighed tuesday), all I've done is cut out all known sugar and ensure I only eat one form of carbohydrate a meal as carbs turn to sugar. Most people on here advocate the Low Carb High Fat Diet there's plenty of info on it on this website.
Sorry to hear your Diabetic nurse was next to useless, it does tend to vary from practice to practice.
If your not testing blood sugars its worth doing as its a good way of gauging if what you are eating is spiking your BS.
Keep posting, ask anything you like there's always someone with an answer.
Good Luck with it all
Maggie
 
I had a similar experience with the practice nurse, but I did get a referral to a diabetes educational course I'm supposed to phone up about. I bought strips and lancets for an old meter belonging to my mother in law when she was testing about ten years ago. We threw away several of them when clearing out the house. It has been good to see the numbers go down day by day, and is a real incentive to stay on the diet. I find that I don't need to count calories, only carbs, and have lost 6lb in a couple of weeks.
 
I would not worry too much about the exercise at first. Your activity level will increase as you lose weight and feel better. Diet is 90% of it, both for weight loss and blood sugar control. Exercise is excellent for your health but too much all at once can cause injury. You have this, you will be fine.
 
Some excellent advice from people above. I would only add - please get your Vitamin D levels checked as a deficiency is common in diabetes, overweight/difficulty losing weight and chronic pain conditions like fibromyalgia.

Welcome to the forum.
 
@AvaK - Hello and Welcome to the Forum :). I will tag @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information that all new members receive.
A lot of Forum Members use the SD Codefree Blood Glucose Meter because the Test Strips are the cheapest to Buy - even cheaper if you buy in bulk. Here is the link for you to take a look:
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose/
Here in the UK we use mmol/L and state you are Diabetic for Vat exemption. Below are the discount codes for buying in bulk.
5 packs = 264086. 10 packs = 975833
 
I too got a shock 5 months ago and I was so overweight that I couldn´t hardly do any sports, my feet hurting and my hips, but I started walking as much as I could every second day in the beginning and went 1000 calories a day, because I needed to loose weight and live long enough to se my daugther fully grown and having a good life...

it was hardest the first 2 weeks... and then I went low carbing when finding this forum and stopped eating from 19 o´clock in the evening untill next day at 12 o´clock as those many hours of not eating is helping ones insuline down and then makes it more easy to loose weight...

now my body doesn´t hurt as much as it did then and I go to a fitness 3 days a week
I've had joint problems since I was 15 and a skinny wee thing, my weight has been up and down all my life and the issues with joints have always been the same, I regularly get steroid injections into them and they're no fun! I do what I can when they're no flare-ups and will continue to do that and so far since diagnosed have been extremely good diet wise. I have now found the low carb forum and sites and have made up my mind this is the way to go. I've ordered books to help me too and am determined to make this work! Thank you for replying and giving me your story, it really helps to hear from others
 
@AvaK - Hello and Welcome to the Forum :). I will tag @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information that all new members receive.
A lot of Forum Members use the SD Codefree Blood Glucose Meter because the Test Strips are the cheapest to Buy - even cheaper if you buy in bulk. Here is the link for you to take a look:
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose/
Here in the UK we use mmol/L and state you are Diabetic for Vat exemption. Below are the discount codes for buying in bulk.
5 packs = 264086. 10 packs = 975833
Thank you, I did sign up for the Type 2 Testing programme and just waiting on that to be delivered, I just don't see how we can properly manage our diabetes if we aren't testing? Seems very strange to me.
 
Some excellent advice from people above. I would only add - please get your Vitamin D levels checked as a deficiency is common in diabetes, overweight/difficulty losing weight and chronic pain conditions like fibromyalgia.

Welcome to the forum.
Really? Wow, didn't know that, will certainly mention to the doc next time I'm there, I have a couple of other auto immune disorders but they are impossible to pronounce far less spell lol! Although nowadays Fibro is no longer classed as auto immune, but when first diagnosed years ago it was. Thank you so much for that and for the welcome
 
I would not worry too much about the exercise at first. Your activity level will increase as you lose weight and feel better. Diet is 90% of it, both for weight loss and blood sugar control. Exercise is excellent for your health but too much all at once can cause injury. You have this, you will be fine.
Thank you! I feel much better after finding this site! After leaving docs, then nurse, I most definitely didn't feel as if I did have it, I was very worried indeed! So little information or support and, in my opinion, rather bad information i.e. eat lots of wholemeal bread and baked potatoes lol! I feel far more in control now I've found this forum and the information contained here and now I've signed up for the Type 2 Testing thingmabob too. Thank you for the supportive and kind words
 
I had a similar experience with the practice nurse, but I did get a referral to a diabetes educational course I'm supposed to phone up about. I bought strips and lancets for an old meter belonging to my mother in law when she was testing about ten years ago. We threw away several of them when clearing out the house. It has been good to see the numbers go down day by day, and is a real incentive to stay on the diet. I find that I don't need to count calories, only carbs, and have lost 6lb in a couple of weeks.
That's fabulous! Afraid I wasn't offered anything, in fact, I got the distinct feeling she wanted me out asap! When I asked about how I was supposed to know how/if I knew if I was doing things right she snapped That's my job! I'll check twice a year. I might have just caught her on a bad day but I left feeling very deflated and anxious. My hubs was not a happy bunny! His brother had diabetes and he never followed what he was supposed to do, foodwise, alcohol wise, and smoking wise, and he died very young, so he's worried in the extreme. I'm feeling far more positive now though! Thank you
 
@AvaK

Hello Ava and welcome to the forum :) To help you to get started, here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It contains details about carbs and levels and a link to the Low Carb Program which you could join. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Avak,
I've only been diagnosed about 8 weeks, its all a bit daunting at first, but stick with this forum and you will learn a lot. As for dieting, I've lost about a stone and a half so far (don't have an exact figure as due to be weighed tuesday), all I've done is cut out all known sugar and ensure I only eat one form of carbohydrate a meal as carbs turn to sugar. Most people on here advocate the Low Carb High Fat Diet there's plenty of info on it on this website.
Sorry to hear your Diabetic nurse was next to useless, it does tend to vary from practice to practice.
If your not testing blood sugars its worth doing as its a good way of gauging if what you are eating is spiking your BS.
Keep posting, ask anything you like there's always someone with an answer.
Good Luck with it all
Maggie
Wow! That's fabulous! I'm def going the low carb way and have ordered book and trying to get as much info as I can. I'll be starting to test as soon as I get my monitor delivered which should be in next day or two. No doubt I'll be asking some pretty stupid questions lol but I'll plod on and hopefully get there in the end! Thank you and let me know how your weigh in goes!
 
@AvaK

Hello Ava and welcome to the forum :) To help you to get started, here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It contains details about carbs and levels and a link to the Low Carb Program which you could join. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Thank you very much, I signed up for the ten week low car thingie yesterday, also signed up for the type 2 testing yesterday, unfortunately I've not even been offered an appointment at a diabetic clinic although I'll see how I go and if I feel I need it I'll ask my doctor direct for a referral. I'm working my way through here slowly and will, no doubt, have other questions! Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it very much indeed, far more than I've had from health care providers to date.
 
Definitely echo the low-carb suggestions. You will start to feel better quite quickly and have much more energy for your exercise bike. And treat yourself to a blood glucose meter. It will help you get a better handle on your diabetes control.
Thank you, I signed up for the type 2 testing and will get my monitor soon. I just don't understand how they think we can manage this without a meter, seems madness to me lol.
 
@AvaK - Hi :). No question is stupid when it concerns Diabetes. Just ask and somebody will be there to answer. Remember, a lot of us have been in the place you are now with diagnosis. Stick with the Forum and you will learn a great deal.:)
 
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