some background-- i used to use novorapid and toujeo insulins but was so hungry i gained alot of weight so i requested a different insulin and was given novolin premixed i lost the horrible hunger but it required me to eat when i wasnt hungry so im back on the novorapid and toujeo now that im back on them again my hungers increased and it makes me irritable sometimes i give in to the hunger it causes but im going to end up gaining weight again in addition to that i seem very insulin resistent and the dose is just climbing again i was using 160 units of toujeo and 120 units of novorapid a day i was started on 45 toujeo and 60 novorapid im already up to 66 and idk even know how much novo rapid as it varies with how many carbs i eat but id venture a guess its maybe 90 units and im not near any kind of goal yet set by the dr nor was i before on the higher doses i dont want to get stuck in this circle again like i was last time use insulin get hungry eat more gain weight need more insulin get more hungry gain more weight use more insulin i dont want stuck in it again i had heard that low carb helped hunger im unable to do that to try that as i can only buy cheap carby foods due to finances im unable to get any exercise due to other health issues i tried several oral meds. before insulin and experienced many side effects one leading me to an er what can i do? is my only option to stop insulin to just have high blood sugar and hope for no complications?
i can afford eggs but cheese and canned tuna only when its on sale and other meats arent an option (intolerances and costs) so i felt that it would be very limiting with just eggs and sometimes tuna and cheese but i like all 3 can i live on this? (cant afford veggies)
Hi, when you say required you to eat when you were not hungry, why? Did you have to dose with food? could the eat when not hungry choice be nuts or something cheap and non fattening? Sounds to me like having to eat when not hungry is way better than the viscous circle you’ve gone back to. I hope you find some answers.
Are you in the uk? Do you have access to food banks? Not being able to afford a few veggies seems awful, must be a way? Personally I hate veggies but my wife force feeds me, we could house swop?
Hi, I appreciate you are on a tight budget with your shopping. From your earlier post you mention using a Libre? If the sensors are self funded, could it be possible to go back to just finger pricking to help with your finances? Best wishes.
the premix was a regular insulin and intermediate insulin already mixed and each has a high peak so between the 2 of them each peaking twice a day(2 injections) i had to eat 4x to avoid hypos i didnt know how much to eat i didnt get any guidance i really only like eating 2x a day
my sensors and insulin and test strips are all covered under the provincial drug plan its a good plan you can only have the sensors or strips one at a time you cant get them covered to use together just a few to test if the sensor says to test with something else cause its saying you have a weird number or whatever
well up goes the weight i guess since i seem to need the insulin or go around in the 12s i have to also starve i really hate this
Sorry you feel so trapped but you are right that more insulin, means more hunger and more weight gain and more insulin resistance. Low carb or keto is the only way back from this vicious circle other than 800kcal diet -also low carb (Newcastle or Blood Sugar diet) or bariatric surgery (not a great solution)> Please have a read of this re low carb on a budget . Please also think how expensive it would be if your diabetes got worse. Fasting is also very cheap. https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/recipes/low-carb-budget
You can get inexpensive hamburger meat. If you shop on Mondays stores also have 1$ and $2 off stickers on packages. Eggs are a good deal. There are other meats besides canned Tuna. Spam and corned beef are an option.
an example i have coffee just 1 the last thing i have not given up for diabetes and it puts me in the 12s fast if ive been lower and i put a bit of 10 percent cream and 3 stevia pks or sucrulose pks in it so i decided to try 10 units of novorapid nothing happens i dont want to give up the last thing i havnt given up but may have to sometimes i think geesh i may as well have a nice regular hot chocolate with that 10 units likely wouldnt work though lol
Did you take 10 units of novorapid for a regular coffee? With no syrup or something in it? I’m far from an expert but that can’t be right? That’s like 2g of carb, if the insulin is not working (and clearly it’s not) and makes you gain weight, how can taking it make sense? I am not really asking you cdpm, I’m asking your doctors that are not reading this doesn’t sound like your getting good care at all.
If it was morning coffee, it may well be the biggest part of the rise was from getting out of bed, not the coffee. Many of us need insulin when we get up, even without breakfast. For some this is only 1 or 2 units, for me it's anywhere between 5 and 16 units (which also covers the splash of milk I have in my coffee).
That’s very interesting, they don’t tell you that. I am way too volatile to inject without food at the moment, feel better being a bit high than crashing, but that’s off topic sorry op edit: sorry, how do you know if it is 5 or 16 if not associating it to food?
I took your question to another thread, so as to not derail this one: https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/adding-metformin-to-insulin.184734/page-2#post-2509304