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<blockquote data-quote="kitedoc" data-source="post: 1958358" data-attributes="member: 468714"><p>Great rant [USER=479658]@Knikki[/USER] !! And I admire your strength in not responding as a reflex action. </p><p>Being diagnosed in 1966 I understand those past days when parents were told that their child has developed sugar-diabetes and had to have insulin injections for life - and that life would likely be shortened by diabetes complications unless everything was 'managed well'., like urine testing, injecting 2 types of basic insulin, (after sterilising glass syringes and accompanying re-used needles each time), eating carbs as portions but no advice about what to do as he or she grew and avoid hypos. (rinse and repeat).</p><p>In later years when I owned a house with a swimming pool and struggled to get pool water chemically balanced. I would think back to how basic yet vital the old urine testing systems like Benedicts were. They gave you a vague clue and a chance to make the most educated guess one could. Let us face it glucometers did not arrive for public use until about 1980.</p><p>Maybe what we seek is a little bit of understanding and respect for having got through those days without all the modern accoutrements of modern diabetes treatment. Our ways of managing our condition came from a relative survival mode which was refined over time. So if it 'ain't broke, let no one tell me how to fix it.</p><p>We have also heard the promises of a cure or a new breakthrough over and over - is it any wonder we can be cynical of such announcements when we figure they are really about attracts funding.? It seems like a cruel joke sometimes.</p><p>The DCCT trial results showing that intensive BSL control for the first 7 (some suggest 10) years reduces the incidence of diabetes complications later on arrived far too late for us 50 plus yearers as it also did for those with less years of diabetes under their belt. Those that can benefit from such a trial be grateful that you have that opportunity and the technical developments to realise it.. </p><p>What has not changed is human nature. Like magpies. bower birds and the like, new shiny things we see or experience gain perhaps more attention than is warranted. There is lots of chatter about low carb diet and I admit that I am trying it out. But then each of our journies differ. I am looking to see if I can reduce the incidence of hypos. But I do not see LCHF as the be all and end all, altough Dr Richard Bernstein's story is very compelling.</p><p>Quite frankly, for all the great work being done I hope the NHS is not just pinning its hopes for the LCHF diet on the oft quoted DCM backed trial of 2017. Why? Because relying on a study of only 12 months for a chronic illness is crazy. Yes. I grant that random controlled trials have shown that longer term compliance rates are better for LCHF diet that for low-fats diets.</p><p>And whilst some of the disease processes and aims of management of those with the various types and classifications of diabetes are similar experience and time has tended to show that one cannot assume one treatment works well or equally well for all. </p><p>By all means see how LCHF diet fares for the majority, T2Ds but let us not urge others into the same pool too quickly.</p><p>Any forum and website like this one has the capacity to help, inform, illuminate and support, but like any big family there will be differences of opinion, different personalities, experience and outlook. That is precious but also a drawback at times.</p><p>Let's try to respect each other as best we can. There are simple, obvious questions that all accept. Some comments, less so.</p><p>Maybe you do not like this rant? Well, it needed to be said, as did [USER=479658]@Knikki[/USER] 's</p><p>But know that like [USER=479658]@Knikki[/USER], I can be a PITA too. </p><p>Somehow I think it goes with the territory, with making it through so many years. You develop a ****-detector of sorts about diabetes which tells you, to put it in Aussie, if something does not sound ridgy-didge (correct or believable).</p><p>End. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> (thinks, make kite with the Benedict test colours on it)!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kitedoc, post: 1958358, member: 468714"] Great rant [USER=479658]@Knikki[/USER] !! And I admire your strength in not responding as a reflex action. Being diagnosed in 1966 I understand those past days when parents were told that their child has developed sugar-diabetes and had to have insulin injections for life - and that life would likely be shortened by diabetes complications unless everything was 'managed well'., like urine testing, injecting 2 types of basic insulin, (after sterilising glass syringes and accompanying re-used needles each time), eating carbs as portions but no advice about what to do as he or she grew and avoid hypos. (rinse and repeat). In later years when I owned a house with a swimming pool and struggled to get pool water chemically balanced. I would think back to how basic yet vital the old urine testing systems like Benedicts were. They gave you a vague clue and a chance to make the most educated guess one could. Let us face it glucometers did not arrive for public use until about 1980. Maybe what we seek is a little bit of understanding and respect for having got through those days without all the modern accoutrements of modern diabetes treatment. Our ways of managing our condition came from a relative survival mode which was refined over time. So if it 'ain't broke, let no one tell me how to fix it. We have also heard the promises of a cure or a new breakthrough over and over - is it any wonder we can be cynical of such announcements when we figure they are really about attracts funding.? It seems like a cruel joke sometimes. The DCCT trial results showing that intensive BSL control for the first 7 (some suggest 10) years reduces the incidence of diabetes complications later on arrived far too late for us 50 plus yearers as it also did for those with less years of diabetes under their belt. Those that can benefit from such a trial be grateful that you have that opportunity and the technical developments to realise it.. What has not changed is human nature. Like magpies. bower birds and the like, new shiny things we see or experience gain perhaps more attention than is warranted. There is lots of chatter about low carb diet and I admit that I am trying it out. But then each of our journies differ. I am looking to see if I can reduce the incidence of hypos. But I do not see LCHF as the be all and end all, altough Dr Richard Bernstein's story is very compelling. Quite frankly, for all the great work being done I hope the NHS is not just pinning its hopes for the LCHF diet on the oft quoted DCM backed trial of 2017. Why? Because relying on a study of only 12 months for a chronic illness is crazy. Yes. I grant that random controlled trials have shown that longer term compliance rates are better for LCHF diet that for low-fats diets. And whilst some of the disease processes and aims of management of those with the various types and classifications of diabetes are similar experience and time has tended to show that one cannot assume one treatment works well or equally well for all. By all means see how LCHF diet fares for the majority, T2Ds but let us not urge others into the same pool too quickly. Any forum and website like this one has the capacity to help, inform, illuminate and support, but like any big family there will be differences of opinion, different personalities, experience and outlook. That is precious but also a drawback at times. Let's try to respect each other as best we can. There are simple, obvious questions that all accept. Some comments, less so. Maybe you do not like this rant? Well, it needed to be said, as did [USER=479658]@Knikki[/USER] 's But know that like [USER=479658]@Knikki[/USER], I can be a PITA too. Somehow I think it goes with the territory, with making it through so many years. You develop a ****-detector of sorts about diabetes which tells you, to put it in Aussie, if something does not sound ridgy-didge (correct or believable). End. :):):) (thinks, make kite with the Benedict test colours on it)!! [/QUOTE]
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