Type 2 and doc wants me higher than I like

Daniel95503 said:

Rambling there, what are your thoughts on her advice?

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I think you should be trying to normalise BG levels as far as possible.

As long as you aren't on any medications that could cause a hypo then there's no problem. I would like my HbA1c to be in the 30s.

My hbalc is 31 or 5% and my GP said ,his words,"you have good control!," and left it at that

I think that the issue is that many doctors ares seing blood sugars that they have never seen before and never believed were possible, with more and more of us following LCHF. You have 2 options, slightly loosen up on the carbs or, my preferred one would be to keep the carbs tight, reduce or remove any remaining medication and keep your levels at 'non diabetic' levels naturally. What have you got to lose?

Daniel, I recommend reading the Bernstein book and seeing if you like his approach. He sees normal BG as 4.6 before meals and 5.6 after.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/031...s+solution&dpPl=1&dpID=51NMUWSvsEL&ref=plSrch

And his video course on YouTube: https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs_TA02I6IvV6-1s2pL4BPhvMo0Ck_lcY

Also the Jenny Ruhl website is brilliant for Type 2s: http://mobile.dudamobile.com/site/phlaunt1?url=http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/#2793

You are quite right that the level your doc is recommending is too high. You want to avoid the damage to your blood vessels.

Having said that, Torq is talking great sense about setting a time period to adjust over.

I am in the US and on insulin. It has been mentioned some Docs like higher levels for T 1's to avoid hypos but generally that it not a concern for T2's. Maybe when that doc turns 15 she will figure that out. 80-120 is a perfect goal.

Low carb and get off meds if you can. Some can, some can't.

If I was you, living in the States (and yes, I know America is a big place, but you have internal flights) I would book me an appointment with Dr Richard Bernstein, if you can afford it. At the very least I would buy his book and watch all his videos 'The Diabetes University' and the replays of his seminars. In the first instance (I believe his initial consultations last something like a full day, but then he follows up his patients with video links etc so he sees people from all across the States / world - and he is in his mid 80s so, apart from his passion / fervour re diabetes treatment - he'll have to give up sometime. His book and website is called 'The Diabetes Book'

http://www.diabetes-book.com

In my opinion, you have 'The best of the best' right out there in the States. Just read Dr Bernstein's personal story on his website, it is absolutely inspirational. You are looking for real people with real experience, Dr Bernstein, a successful engineer, retrained as a Doctor in his early forties in order to be able to treat other diabetics, using his protocol which he had discovered, testing his blood sugars when blood sugar meters had just been discovered. He stabilised his t1 diabetes and reversed his diabetes complications by tightly managing his blood glucose levels, adhering to a strict low carbohydrate diet and reducing insulin levels to minimal amounts, not 'industrial quantities' that his previous regime had required. Good Luck

I may be wrong but I have not heard of a doctor in the UK prescribing Prozac for lowering BG levels. It is a drug used here mostly for depression and anxiety

@LucySW beat me to it!

Jenny Ruhl and the bloodsugar101 website will arm you perfectly for your next round with your 12 year old.

Daniel95503 said:

oh and i do notice i get EXTREMELY exhausted, mentally and physically when i come up from being that low. is that normal?

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Yes.
Be gentle with yourself after a hypo. go to bed early. eat lots of low carb food. try not to give in to the carb cravings.
Have some low carb comfort foods around (my fave is low carb hot choc)
- and you will feel better in the morning.
it may take a couple of days to feel 100% again, but don't worry, you WILL get there.