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Type 2 and levels are going up - why ??

Jackien

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Hi

I've been type 2 for some 4 years and my levels with oral medication has been around the 6/7 mark.

But since having Chemo from Nov.08 to April.09 my levels have slowly increased and are now up to 13/14. My doctor says it maybe to do with the Chemo I had, still on the same medication and awaiting to see a Diabetes Specialist at my local Hospital for this rise, as the doctor is not an expert in this field.

Is this normal for someone who have had Chemo.

Thanks
 
Chemo could certainly be the cause, but what are you eating?
If you let us know what your diet and medication are, we might have some helpful ideas
Hana
 
Thanks,

I've added my medication to my signature below.

As for diet, I keep well away from sugar contents and keep to low fat food when ever possible, otherwise a normal diet and small quantities.

But as told by my GP, my medication does not alot of good for weight control. :oops:
 
maybe its the Chemo and your body thinks its a "sick day" and your levels go up when your sick.
Thats why people in Insulin have to increase insulin doses when they feel ill.

I am not sure on this maybe someone else can confirm. :wink:
 
Recently someone told me (on here I think) that if you don't eat say breckfast, then your body will realise that you have not eaten so your liver kicks in and helps out, hence your BM goes up a bit.
So I assume the same will happen if you avoid sugars (or something with no carbs).

I am only guessing here, maybe someone who knows more can confirm.
 
Jackien said:
Thanks

As its abit early in the morning, whats the meaning of 'bm' :)


BM = Blood monitoring
BG= Blood Glucose


It when when you use you test meter and test strips to get you blood readings.

People call them different things.

All the hospitals in Liverpool UK refer to it as BM :wink:
 
Thanks,

Now I know.

But I thought I had to avoid sugars etc. as advised to help keep my levels down. I don't normally skip any meals, if I do then I may snack bits of smaller quantities throughout the morning or afternoon rather than nothing at all.
 
I am not medically qualified but I do work with people who have chronic long term health problems, although my area of expertise is neurological conditions rather than cancer. This reply is based on my understanding of using nutrition to manage health problems from personal experience as well as a bit of professional knowledge.

I think that dieticians are some of the most helpful people I work with, but their expertise seems to be totally disregarded in compiling hospital/institutional menus. There has been a recent report that says the food in prison is better than food in hospital :? I have been hospitalised three times in my life and found the food really difficult to deal with each time. On one occasion I had a serious ear infection and chewing anything was very painful. Another time was when I had just delivered a baby and was breastfeeding - all the guidelines I had read about the food you eat to recover physically and make good quality milk seemed to have been disregarded by those compiling the one-size-fits-all menu :? :roll:

People with health problems have different nutritional needs to healthy people. This means that even the traditional low sugar low fat "healthy plate" has to be adapted for sick people. For example, someone who is healing a pressure sore or other wound needs a much higher calorific and nutrient dense diet than someone who is physically well. People who can't get all the goodness out of their food because of their illness also need to be eating much greater quantities for food - for example some people can still lose weight eating considerably more than the "normal" amount of calories.

If you have more than one health problem, managing both diagnoses becomes a difficult balancing act :? My view is that something that could kill you trumps a long term chronic condition :? :(

In this situation, I don't know what I'd do or how I'd feel, but I would try to bear this in mind... T2 diabetes is an illness that you do get a bit of a "run up" to. It takes years for the complications to develop and you know that you can bring things under control with active managment of your diet and medication and that this will make you feel much better when you can do this again.

If you are having some heavy duty treatment for cancer your system is under a fairly major assault and you may feel pretty awful for quite a while. You need to make the things that you do eat a high quality. But to be honest, I think something is better than nothing, because it does at least give your body something to work with. Worrying about blood sugar numbers is possibly the least of your worries at the moment.

If your appetite is gone because of the medication you are taking, the food you are offered and how it is presented needs to be reconsidered. If you can't face big meals, try a smaller plate or regular snacks of things you can manage.

The referral to the diabetes specialist is an excellent idea as he/she can have an overview and may be able to suggest other medication or ways to manage the problem. If you are ill your body is not behaving normally :? and you may need to simply do the best you can as often as you can until you just have the one thing to think about.

I low carb - I get the impression you do this to from your other posts - low carb food should tick a lot of the nutritional boxes for both conditions as it is higher in protein and higher in fat. You might also want to consider a low glycaemic index approach for a while.

Tell us what you like to eat and what kind of eating patterns you have at the moment and we may be able to suggest some things that have the nutrition you need to help your body heal while not sending you blood sugar haywire.
 
Thanks for that,

Although I have had Chemo Treatment, where this has now finished. My condition 'Hodgkin's Lymphoma' where it was minor and only found during Consultation and treatment for a Chronic Ear infection, which is now in remission and I am to be reviewed every year etc. It took some 5/6 mths for the diagnosis to be complete with various tests, biopsy, X-rays and scan's as its a very rare form.

I shall make a list of my most common diet eats and post.

Thanks for all the help given.
 
Jackien said:
Thanks for that,

Although I have had Chemo Treatment, where this has now finished. My condition 'Hodgkin's Lymphoma' where it was minor and only found during Consultation and treatment for a Chronic Ear infection, which is now in remission and I am to be reviewed every year etc. It took some 5/6 mths for the diagnosis to be complete with various tests, biopsy, X-rays and scan's as its a very rare form.

I shall make a list of my most common diet eats and post.

Thanks for all the help given.

Jackien, my interpretation of what you say about your condition being "minor" is that you have had a treatable form which was caught early, rather than after it had progressed to a more serious stage. I hope I got that right :D And I hope that is like your diabetes, in that it, too, was caught early, before you started to develop the complications :)

This is all good news, but your body isn't working "normally" at the moment - whatever normal is anyway :roll: I'm not medically qualified, but I'd say that cutting yourself some slack, perhaps in the form of "looser" control of blood glucose for a while would be a good idea so that you can focus on healing. I understand that it can take some while for your body to recover from even minor treatment and your form of cancer has affected your whole body rather than a discrete part.

I dare say that regular testing would help you to establish at what level the unpleasant symptoms of diabetes, that wear you down and make it difficult to deal with, kick in. I used to get lots of headaches and a fuzzy-headedness that made thinking difficult before I got my blood sugar under control. Now, when I get a headache or I'm finding it really difficult to concentrate, it usually turns out that my blood sugar is higher than I'd like, perhaps because my period is due or because I have eaten something I shouldn't. You need to look at what is an acceptable level for you at this time.

I hope that you get some constructive suggestions when you post the stuff about your diet. Good luck, and I hope you are well on the way to a full recovery :D
 
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