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Type 2 Type 2 Diabetes and weight loss

RWBennie

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Hi there , has anyone any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes.
Been Type 2 (diet controlled) for a good number of years and recently have lost all control and not attended diabetic appointments.
Attended last week and Hab1c was 12.6% and I have lost weight.
Anyone else any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes ?
 
Anyone else any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes ?

Before I was diagnosed people kept asking me if I had lost weight, and as it turned out I had indeed. My GP explained to me that it was because I peed glucose. Simple explanation, I know, but I don't know the details. I thought I was clever and asked her if T2 could cure itself that way, that if I just kept peeing my sugar out, I'd lose even more weight and at some point be slim and T2less? Sounded logic to me, but not to her.
Sorry, I don't know if that answer was useful at all, but yes, I lost weight without even trying with an undiagnosed and uncontrolled T2. I also know how easy it is to lose control, but the fact that you're posting here tells me that you're well on your way to breaking that vicious circle.
Welcome :) You've come to a good place. I believe that @daisy1 has some very useful info for you.
 
Hi there , has anyone any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes.
Been Type 2 (diet controlled) for a good number of years and recently have lost all control and not attended diabetic appointments.
Attended last week and Hab1c was 12.6% and I have lost weight.
Anyone else any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes ?
Yes, I lost a small amount of weight when my T2 got out of control after many years. It's a sign/symptom of high blood sugar over a long period. But help is available. Through working with your doctor/nurse and reading about lifestyle changes at this forum you can start to get your blood sugar down fast. The weight loss you are experiencing now isn't healthy weight loss and it isn't sustainable. Once you get diabetes back under control you will probably be able to lose weight and keep it off, while knowing that your health is improving, too. Welcome, good luck, and keep us posted.:)
 
Hi there , has anyone any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes.
Been Type 2 (diet controlled) for a good number of years and recently have lost all control and not attended diabetic appointments.
Attended last week and Hab1c was 12.6% and I have lost weight.
Anyone else any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes ?
I think the logical answer is that any serious illness will lead to weight loss. If our blood sugar runs away completely out of control we will eventually die- the ultimate weight loss. Seriously though, A steady loss of weight prompted by a good diet and exercise will help to control BG. If you don't put sugar into your body then BG will start to fall. If you lose the dangerous fat around the liver and pancreas then they will work better and BG will be better controlled. This is how so many people in this group have reduced their BG from high to normal levels in a matter of months. Surf these forums and you will have the tools to succeed.
 
Hi there , has anyone any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes.
Been Type 2 (diet controlled) for a good number of years and recently have lost all control and not attended diabetic appointments.
Attended last week and Hab1c was 12.6% and I have lost weight.
Anyone else any experience of weight loss with uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes ?

it can be dangerous to have both very high blood glucose and high ketones at the same time., the body start to break down muscles instead of using the glucose in you blood , and therefor the weightloss is not of a healthy kind...

maybe you should try counting the grams of carbs you eat in a day and get your blood glucose down in a hurry.. try to stay under 100 grams of carbs in total for a day for the first week.
 
@RWBennie

Hello RWBennie and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and interesting. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
It is indeed possible. In fact unexplained weight loss was one of the reasons that I went to see the quack even though I felt quite well. I had weight loss, piddling all the time and constant changes to my prescription glasses. Otherwise I felt good. I went to my GP just to have it checked out. He took a finger prick test and almost fell off his chair. My reading was 22.5 and a fasting test the next day was 15.5 and an A1c of 9.5%. It is logical really. The sugar can't be used effectively because of insulin either not working or resistance. The ol' body has to get its energy from somewhere so off comes the stored fats.
Have fun,
Glenn
 
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