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Type 2 Diabetes / in a mess

newlifehelp

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Was diagnosed August 2015 after a pretty horrible holiday. Turns out all the symptoms I had been going to Dr about had not been tied together and hadn't had any blood tests. Locum not happy with my symptoms , so bloods taken and an 18 glucose score set of the alarm bells.
Since then have had the usual 6 month check up and 1 meeting with a very patronizing dietitian, hence why I am in a mess diet wise.
I need to eat healthily but also need to loose weight. So would appreciate any help and tips from the forum
 
Hello and welcome.

We were all in a mess when we were first diagnosed. The best thing you have done is to find this forum. I will tag @daisy1 who will arrive with the information she gives to all newcomers. Please read it. Meanwhile, have a good browse round the forum and ask as many questions as you wish. You will soon notice that carbohydrates (bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, pastry, batter etc.) are the main culprits in raising our blood sugars because they all turn to glucose once inside our system, so the less carbs you eat the better your BS levels will be and the more weight you will lose.

Good luck.
 
Hi and welcome. Do follow the diet advice from people on the forum. As a generalisation that means reducing the carbs and increasing proteins, fats and having enough veg and fruit etc. Dieticians in the NHS are generally not very good for us and some plain harmful. Key points are to think carbs not sugar, think carbs not calories.
 
Hey there.
I was diagnosed as type 2 in mid July and after plenty of reading around mainly on this forum went LCHF on August 1st. Recent results showed Blood Glucose back to normal levels as well as great improvement in cholesterol tests and liver function etc.Lost weight as well.
For type2 it is ALL about diet and excersise and can be done but takes determination.Take control and you will feel better not just physically but because you are back in control.
Unfortunatley the advice from NHS practitioners and dieticians is well behind the curve.So stick with us, those who have lived it, and made it work.
Get yourself a cuppa and get to know your way around this forum,there are many who have been at your stage of this journey, and will help.We are a friendly bunch so stick with us and ask any questions you like,no question is a silly question.
Oh and welcome to the forum!!
 
@newlifehelp

Hello and welcome to the forum. To add to the useful advice above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hello and welcome.
Most of us have got our numbers down with diet,and it not hard to do ,good you found the forum.It took me a year to find the forum and my blood sugar was down in a week,just follow advice.
All the best/
 
Hello and welcome.

We were all in a mess when we were first diagnosed. The best thing you have done is to find this forum. I will tag @daisy1 who will arrive with the information she gives to all newcomers. Please read it. Meanwhile, have a good browse round the forum and ask as many questions as you wish. You will soon notice that carbohydrates (bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, pastry, batter etc.) are the main culprits in raising our blood sugars because they all turn to glucose once inside our system, so the less carbs you eat the better your BS levels will be and the more weight you will lose.

Good luck.
Thanks for the support
 
@newlifehelp

Hello and welcome to the forum. To add to the useful advice above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
When you talk about testing glucose levels do you mean the thumb prick test, if you do then just to say my clinic does not issue them to type2 as we cannot go into a hypo, there words. Would I be able to buy one online.
 
When you talk about testing glucose levels do you mean the thumb prick test, if you do then just to say my clinic does not issue them to type2 as we cannot go into a hypo, there words. Would I be able to buy one online.
I have just answered my own question. Just went online to Amazon and bought a full testing kit. That way I am in control instead of having to go to health centre and ask for something that even the nurse said I should get, but the strips are so expensive.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. Good on you for getting a meter, Im sure you will get yourself on track in no time. If you have any questions just ask :)
 
I have just answered my own question. Just went online to Amazon and bought a full testing kit. That way I am in control instead of having to go to health centre and ask for something that even the nurse said I should get, but the strips are so expensive.

Many of us use the Codefree meter because the strips are cheap.
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/
 
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