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Type 2 Diabetes/Insulin /and COPD/Lung Fibrosis

robert382

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I have been on Metformin 500mg for 2 years without succeeding in keeping blood sugar levels below 7, and sometimes up to 15 in the evening after 2 hours since eating. Now I am told by the Diabetic Nurse and my GP, that I must have Insulin injections daily starting on January 2. If I do not do this, my kidneys will eventually sieze up and malfunction leading to kidney disease and blood problems etc.
On top of the foregoing, I also have COPD (Pulmonary Disease) and Lung Fibrosis (thickening and malfunction of the lung lining), both incurable.
So what should I do, start with the Insulin and hope for the better, or ignore the above and wait for the inevitable (which according to my Consultant could result in a rapid deterioration of all bodily functions, without warning. ! ????}
seems I am caught between the devil and the deep blue sea, damned if I do and damned if I dont.!
What is the best course of action in my case. ??
many thanks
Robert 382
 
Welcome to the Forum Robert.

Although you are not a new Diabetic it sounds like you are struggling with dietary control. Below is the advice we give to new Diabetics which may help you bring down your levels and perhaps even avoid going onto Insulin as well.


Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, Diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy Carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of Insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause Insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting Carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total Carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a Diabetic.

As for a tester, try asking the Nurse/Doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own Diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try !!

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l........(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Sue/Ken.

It may also be that some non-diabetic drugs ( if you are on any) could interfere with your blood glucose levels as well but this you would have to discuss with your doctor.
 
Seems a bit strange that they would go straight from 500mg metformin to insulin, I was on 2000mg metformin, max dose pioglitazone and glitazide, and they hadn't mentioned insulin at all and said there were other things to try first before insulin (and then they realised I had had type 1 all along so I had to go on insulin anyway...).

When I went to the diabetic clinic the other day, both the person with the appointment before mine and the one with the appointment after were on dialysis due to complications with diabetes, so do watch out.

The insulin injections aren't a problem at all, can't even feel the needle sometimes, so if the injections are putting you off don't worry if you do have to go onto insulin. Was it the thought of the injections that were the problem?
 
Thanks HLW. maybe you are right about the fear of insulin injections in my case, but even more is my fear of complications arising, despite what the Diabetic nurse saying you will feel better after insulin tratment. However the constant checking of blood sugar with the Accu-meter is annoying me, and sometimes I dont want to bother with it. but of course, without testing how does anyone know what blood sugar levels are doing each day.? It seems like a battle of wills now, and I really would like to bash the Diabetes defective gene in my system to death, b y slow torture if possible !!
Why do some people have it , and others not, nobody has yet come up with a convincing answer. Que sera ! Que Sera!
Robert
 
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