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Type 2 diagnosis today

Groundgripper

Well-Known Member
Messages
60
Location
Hampshire
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Dislikes
Busy towns and cities, heavy traffic, noisy people, rubbishy televison or radio shows, rap music.
Hello, and thank you for being here, I have just been diagnosed as type 2 as of 15.00 hours today, blood glucose 50 after HbA1c test last week, just a single tablet with evening meal at the moment, i have been glucose intolerant for many years, and also on high blood pressure medication for about the same few decades.
I hoped I was clear but sort of expecting this, not overwhelmed or too upset, just got to deal with it, and do what I can to control it, had already started altering my diet when it was first mentioned about a month ago after my first HbA1c test, so already aware of what changes are required, thanks to this site.
I may sound like I am just doing a great job of grin and bare it, but it is a life changer, I know that, I have just been a hard headed engineer for so long now that i just tend to be of the opinion of - okaaay, right, what needs to be done, needs to be done.
 
had already started altering my diet when it was first mentioned about a month ago after my first HbA1c test, so already aware of what changes are required, thanks to this site.
Hello, and welcome to the forum! Sounds like you've already been reading up, but just to make sure I'll tag @daisy1 for her excellent piece of information, she'll post it on this thread.
With your hba1c at 50 and you clearly willing to alter your diet you may be able to ditch the pills very soon!
Being a 'hard headed engineer', you'll certainly want to use a glucose meter to see what different foods do to your bg (blood glucose) so you can engineer your way to non diabetic numbers
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. Now you're here have wander around the site and ask as many questions as you like.
 
Hi there, I am new to this too. when first diagnosed - 7 weeks ago, I didn't want to believe it, in fact it made me extremely angry. It took more than a week to get it in to my head! I am cool with it now,100% focused and determined! I was also diagnosed with T2 HbA1c 50, but I was not prescribed medication, within 6 weeks of eating well and physical activity I got it to 40. Best wishes. Theo.
 
I reversed my diabetes after 6 months from HBA1C 85 to 37.

If I can do it, you can do it too.

Happy to help...

Good luck!
 
Thank you to all of you for replying, I sincerely do appreciate your input, I was a bit confused I must admit, especially when I was told I would only be on one pill per day, I asked if I could just manage on diet alone, but the doctor was quite adamant about it, she was not my own doctor, she was a locum I have never seen before, I will attempt to get to see my normal doctor prior to the diabetic nurse clinic that I have been scheduled for on the 11th of January,
I am not in denial, and I have been glucose intolerant for many, many years, but was fully aware of that and managed without too much trouble, my morning blood is 7.0 and even after breakfast Porridge with a hint of salt, drops to 5.4 within a couple of hours of eating that, then lunch which is boiled eggs with cheese, cucumber, tomato, sweetcorn and a slice of wholemeal bread with butter is back at that level again within two hours, an evening meal larger than lunch time, Quorn Mince with runner beans and a slice of toasted wholemeal does push me up to 11.8 within an hour but drops to 7.00 after a couple of hours.
I rarely drink alcohol due to where I work inside an MOD establishment and also with driving to work and inside the establishment, I am aged but very active, and do not smoke, so a bit bewildered, but willing to do whatever is needed.
 
I asked if I could just manage on diet alone, but the doctor was quite adamant about it
With an hba1c of 50, trying diet first seems pretty reasonable. On the other hand, the diet you describe doesn't seem very high in carbs, so more difficult to cut back on than for people who eat a lot of bread, rice and potatoes.
Type2 doesn't really care what color bread you eat, the wholemeal gets converted to glucose a bit faster than the white.
 

It is quite unusual for medication to be prescribed with an initial HbA1c of 50, but it may help. Mine was 53 on diagnosis and I was sent away to lose weight. No medication mentioned.

If I were you I would be cutting back on the bread and sweetcorn, but you do seem to know what you are doing.
 
@Groundgripper
Hello and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Hi all,, I was diagnosed yesterday as type 2 with a HbA1c of 71. I’m in a bit of a spin as I was not expecting it I’m 40 live an active life, eat ok (or so I thought ) but drink a bit too much! Don’t quite know where to start ‍
 
@Groundgripper & @Leigh57596 , welcome to both of you.

It does send one for a spin, and as Groundripper's attitude sums it up: Right, what needs to be done?

Well, first you get yourself a meter. You check before and after a meal, and if you go up more than 2.0 mmol/l, that meal was too carby. Practically all carbs turn into glucose once ingested, and as T2's we've got trouble processing that back out. (So it ends up doing damage everywhere and getting stored in fatcells. Boom, obesity.) So... Cut the bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, corn, cereal, fruit (save for berries, tomatoes and avocado). Things that won't spike you are eggs, meat, fish, above-ground veggies, extra dark chocolate (in moderation), olives, cheese, full fat greek yoghurt and what have you. So eggs'n'bacon in the morning (with cheese, mushrooms, tomato, high meat content suasages? All good!). Lunch could be a salad with a can of tuna (in oil, not brine), capers, olives, mayo and avocado. Quite filling! Dinner, meat or fish with veggies, maybe add bacon and cheese to that for flavour and to be a bit more satisfying. Ther's a million meal ideas over on dietdoctor.com, if this sounds a bit boring. Just make sure you find things you enjoy eating. Have something on your plate that makes you feel happy, not deprived, as this is a life-long diet. And if it feels like a prison it's not going to be doable.

Good luck, both of you!
Jo
 
Welcome to the forum @Groundgripper, I'm surprised that the gp prescribed meds (metafornin?) immediately. 50 isn't very high, I was 49 at diagnosis. My gp agreed to let me try to get it down by diet and exercise, and I had reduced it to 44 by my 3 month retest.
You are doing the right things, and I expect you will reduce your bg level by your next HbA1c test.
 
Hi all,, I was diagnosed yesterday as type 2 with a HbA1c of 71. I’m in a bit of a spin as I was not expecting it I’m 40 live an active life, eat ok (or so I thought ) but drink a bit too much! Don’t quite know where to start ‍
Welcome to the forum @Leigh57596. It is a shock when you get that diagnosis and takes a bit of time to get a grip on it all. But the good news is that Type 2 diabetes can be controlled. Many of the T2s on here are managing the condition by modifying the way they eat. Have a read of daisy's post (above yours) and around the forum. And ask any questions you want, the people on here are friendly and supportive.
 
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