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Type 2 high blood sugars

LorraineRae

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hi

I'm really struggling to get my glucose levels to an acceptable level as I need surgery but can't have it as my HbA1C are too high. (80-100)

I was diagnosed June 2015 started on Metaformin but made me so ill, changed to glixacide. My sugars are always between 13-16 but tonight 9.9 my lowest since I started to to test.

I am now on SR Metoformin my 3rd day. Looking for advice for healthy snacks, meals etc.

Thanks Lorr
 
The quickest and easiest way to make an impact on your blood glucose, which will then lower your Hba1c results is to remove all the high carb foods from your diet. If you start your day with something simple and low carb - a mushroom omelette, some leftover meat from the previous day's dinner, green salad - even fish if you like it - I really like kippers, smoked haddock, even a bit of salmon or if it is more like lunch time when I get hungry I might have tuna salad.
I have real coffee with cream, maybe a few nuts , then in the evening I have meat or fish - depending on what I have eaten earlier, with low carb vegetables. If I want a dessert then I might have crème fraiche with desiccated coconut, or sugar free jelly with berries and cream, or home made ice cream - basically a frozen egg custard. If I feel like something savoury I might have nuts and cheese rather than anything sweet.
 
hi

I'm really struggling to get my glucose levels to an acceptable level as I need surgery but can't have it as my HbA1C are too high. (80-100)

I was diagnosed June 2015 started on Metaformin but made me so ill, changed to glixacide. My sugars are always between 13-16 but tonight 9.9 my lowest since I started to to test.

I am now on SR Metoformin my 3rd day. Looking for advice for healthy snacks, meals etc.

Thanks Lorr
I too was waiting for an op which was cancelled after my diagnosis of T2 last week - what is an acceptable sugar level for an op ?
 
hi

I'm really struggling to get my glucose levels to an acceptable level as I need surgery but can't have it as my HbA1C are too high. (80-100)

I was diagnosed June 2015 started on Metaformin but made me so ill, changed to glixacide. My sugars are always between 13-16 but tonight 9.9 my lowest since I started to to test.

I am now on SR Metoformin my 3rd day. Looking for advice for healthy snacks, meals etc.

Thanks Lorr

you could take a few days on NO carbs at all, eat avocado, macadamia nuts and eat only eggs meat fish and cheese(with no carbs in) and cucumber if you miss vegetables a lot and green pepper
 
Hi @LorraineRae
I will tag @daisy1 who will post a helpful guide for newcomers.
Using a meter and testing before a meal and 2 hours after should help you find out what you can eat and what is better avoided.
 
@LorraineRae

Hello Lorr and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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Unfortunately drugs like Metformin only have a small effect on blood sugar, decreasing blood sugar readings by maybe 1 to 2. If you need to drop fasting levels from 13 down to the normal range 4-7 you need to change your diet. Check out the Low Carb High Fat diet which is mentioned a lot on these forums. You need to stop eating foods containing sugar and carbohydrates such as: bread, breakfast cereals, rice, pasta and stop drinking fruit juice such as orange juice. There are lots of recipes of foods you can eat over on dietdoctor.com
 
think it is under 7 mmol, but guess it will also depend on how acutely the operation is needed and the prognosis of healing or survival, which is worsened from a high blood glucose
http://patient.info/doctor/precautions-for-patients-with-diabetes-undergoing-surgery
Looks like a HbA1C of under 69 is what they are looking for before surgery. Since HbA1C is a three month average measure of blood sugar it takes a while to drop after you reduce your blood glucose. My HbA1C dropped from 99 to 59 over four months after my fasting blood glucose numbers dropped from 13 to about 7 since eating a LCHF diet.
 
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