Indeed..I think olive oil virgin kind is a good fat source too and olives , as well as coconut oil and avocadoes and nuts
I newly diagnosed type 2 diabetic, no meds just diet control however its easier said than done as I have no idea what my maximum daily carb intake should be my evening pre dinner glucose level today was 6.3 2 hrs post 8.4 is this really bad or am I on the right road.
I am trying to reduce my weight at the same time as reducing carbs but the side effect of this seems to be my fsily fat increase has gone up.
At the moment I am working to 1400 cals, 100g carbs per day not sure how I measure the fat other than % which is coming out as the highest % of my total daily food intake. Just worried I now swapping fat for carbs.
Nightmare at the minute, any advice or guidance would be welcomed.
Eat to your meter
Strange as it might seem - if you reduce your carbs then calories start to go wonky - somehow they just don't matter as much as when you are eating carbs. As you will se from my signature I do Atkins. At the moment I am losing about 2 lb a week and I don't limit portions just the type of food I eat. Anything above 10 percent carbs is off limits I eat lots of meat with the natural fat - salads I add olive oil and vinegar dressing, full fat coleslaw or mayonnaise. I limit the weightloss to 2lb a week - that is limit, as I found that the weight just fell off me when I cut carbs too low. I'd look like last weeks party balloon by now if I'd cut down too much. After being unable to lose weight on any diet - ad the one for reducing cholesterol - I just put on weight as such a rate, and then became diabetic - or rather it was diagnosed, as I suspect I was undiagnosed for a very long time, only eating low carb kept it under control. If you can find a copy of Dr Atkins New diet revolution it has all sorts of information about the carb count and what to cut out and what to eat to start the process, though it might be available online if you search.
Sounds like you are doing the right thing... well still too many carbs for me but.. the extra fat is what keeps you feeling full so less hunger pangs.. that's why it is called the low carb high fat diet. Just make sure you are eating good fat from meats fish olives avocado and not processed vegetable oil fat. Your glucose rise is ok but cold be better - 2 mmol/l is the max recommended rise I try for 1 or less but as you can see by my signature I'm a bit of an evangelist for this way of eating.
A bit of extra advice.. I found it much easier to just cut out as many carbs as I could and just have above ground veg, salad, cream as my carb sources and then just have cheese meat fish etc. By getting your carb way down you let your body recover. Then you can (if you really want to ) start introducing some carbs back and eat to your meter after that. I found that I didn't really miss the carbs so never re-introduced. I also skipped breakfast and just had a couple of mugs of tea..which I think also helped greatly but tht depends if you "have" to eat breakfast or not.I am going to take your advice and reduce carbs to 75 a day
@Bellatom
Hello and welcome to the forumHere, as mentioned above, is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It will give you lots of advice on carbs and a link to the Low Carb Program which you could join. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
Reduce your carbohydrates
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.
Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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