Type 2

can't stop worrying and crying.I got Depression and the Diabetes doesn't help!! I feel I'm living on borrowed time bcos I was told by my Nurse it is progressive and it puts u at high risk of strokes,heart attacks etc it interferes with the blood circulation so not bad enough all that but on top of it I could lose all my hair!!! When I asked my Nurse at the Docs Surgery if the Diabetes was going to kill me and there's nothing I could do about it she just said we all die sometime!! Another one tells a different story!! What else worries Me is the fact that it exhilarates plaque formation in the arteries!! I'm on keto and we're told eat fatty meat and drink full fat Milk So I have minced beef and broccoli,cauliflower sprouts and just a sml amount of carrots.I get the 20% fat minced beef,full fat Milk but it says online fatty beef contributes to it!! Also why's gravy raise blood sugars.I had some Bisto and my sugars rocketed then when I stopped a few days they dropped.Wheres the sugar in gravy!!Can't do right for doing wrong!!

Sorry you’re feeling so down. Your nurse is wrong, if you control your bloods sugars diabetes doesn’t have to be progressive. Sure if you don’t take action to keep your blood sugars under control you are at an increased risk of complications or other health conditions such as heart disease, though I’ve not heard of hair loss!
You’ve taken action with going keto, so that’s good, many of us don’t worry about fats as reducing carbohydrates are our prime concern to improve our overall metabolic health. I’m not sure why Bisto raised your bloods sugars as a small amount of gravy is not many carbs, maybe you just had too larger a portion?
Also have you taken advice on your depression, have you considered medication or counselling?

I"me type 1 and when I was in. my twenties a Dr once told me I would probably not see forty , I am now 67 and have not experienced any health issues from diabetes other than the odd injury from hypos , think on the positive side that you are more aware of your health and able to look after yourself .

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Hi Julie, I feel your pain! I too have depression which is hell on its own. Are you on medication for it? Sending you a hug in the meantime.
How long have you been diabetic for? Sometimes I feel the nurses talk about it so much they become immune to how it makes people feel and not being diabetic themselves, have no understanding of how difficult it is.
You are at a higher risk of strokes, heart disease and circulatory issues but I’ve not known anyone lose their hair unless they are on certain drugs. But these risks can be minimised with appropriate treatment and diet and looking after yourself which is what you sound like you are trying to do.
I think they are wrong to say there is nothing you can do about it, many people have now reversed their diabetes and there is lots you can do to keep it under control.
I’m new to this forum too after being in denial for many years and have recently had a shock to my health due to my diabetes. I’ve found reading the posts on here is very helpful and lots of support, hopefully they can help you too!

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Julie27318 said:

can't stop worrying and crying.I got Depression and the Diabetes doesn't help!! I feel I'm living on borrowed time bcos I was told by my Nurse it is progressive and it puts u at high risk of strokes,heart attacks etc it interferes with the blood circulation so not bad enough all that but on top of it I could lose all my hair!!! When I asked my Nurse at the Docs Surgery if the Diabetes was going to kill me and there's nothing I could do about it she just said we all die sometime!! Another one tells a different story!! What else worries Me is the fact that it exhilarates plaque formation in the arteries!! I'm on keto and we're told eat fatty meat and drink full fat Milk So I have minced beef and broccoli,cauliflower sprouts and just a sml amount of carrots.I get the 20% fat minced beef,full fat Milk but it says online fatty beef contributes to it!! Also why's gravy raise blood sugars.I had some Bisto and my sugars rocketed then when I stopped a few days they dropped.Wheres the sugar in gravy!!Can't do right for doing wrong!!

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Like many things, if left untreated Type 2 diabetes can be progressive. The important words are if left untreated. Nobody has to do that, and there's plenty that can be done.

I finally got a diabetes diagnosis in 2019 - I'd probably been diabetic since around 2009/10 but had been firmly told that I was not diabetic. Unfortunately I believed what I was told. I'd had a whole series of different symptoms, each more unpleasant and painful than the previous. Roll forward to 2019 - oh yes, you are in fact diabetic and when checked my BG had been steadily climbing "since records began".

I went keto straight away - I'd read enough on here to know what to do - and my BG was normal four months later. I don't mean "non-diabetic", it was absolutely normal. The diabetic symptoms went very quickly, apart from some nerve damage that's probably permanent. I haven't ever taken medication, but I think there can be a real value in using it to help achieve a goal - hopefully not needing to stay on it for a lifetime.

Next three or four years I lost around 90lbs. I'm 70 next year, and I restarted playing football a couple of years ago. And despite what some would say is "high fat" in my diet, my cholesterol figures haven't changed, apart from a slight fall. It's also worth knowing that the American College of Cardiology, which used to advise a low fat diet, has since 2019 stated about saturated fat (SFA) in the diet :

Several foods relatively rich in SFAs, such as whole-fat dairy, dark chocolate, and unprocessed meat, are not associated with increased CVD or diabetes risk.

There is no robust evidence that current population-wide arbitrary upper limits on saturated fat consumption in the United States will prevent CVD or reduce mortality.


Gravy (I mean Bisto style gravy) raises blood glucose because it has thickener which is usually some form of starch. Starches are carbohydrates just like sugars and like sugars are digested to glucose. If you're aiming for keto you'll need to remove almost all starches and sugars from what you eat.

Short answer - stick at it. best of luck.