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"Type 2"

Addy66

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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Diagnosed 2 weeks ago, Took Metforin but was told to stop as made me violently sick. Was given slow release Metformin and as adviced to start this weekend,

Went to Diabetic nurse last evening and she told blood sugar reading of 5,4 (down from 9,4 with diet only). Spoke to dr this morning and he said it was my choice whether to start taking pills at weekend. Am not sure what to do.
 
Personally? I would try without. Keep monitoring your bloods, and see how you go.

I have never taken any meds for diabetes, and it is possible to make and maintain a difference without drugs. Not everyone's body can cope with it, but if yours can, surely it must be better to allow it to work as nature intended. If you find, despite your best efforts your numbers go up, then you have the option to start the SR.

There's something very gratifying to know that "I did this", rather than wondering how much is me and how much has been achieved by a pill.

Some people feel Metformin has other health benefits, so they have arguments valid for them, and you should listen to their side of the story too.

Diabetes is rarely cut and dried..
 
I agree with Andbreathe. Personally I think it's best to try diet and exercise first, but we need to bear in mind it doesn't work for everyone.
I have been low carbing for 2 months now and my glucose levels are definitely going down so I am hoping to avoid drugs at my next review.
 
Diagnosed 2 weeks ago, Took Metforin but was told to stop as made me violently sick. Was given slow release Metformin and as adviced to start this weekend,

Went to Diabetic nurse last evening and she told blood sugar reading of 5,4 (down from 9,4 with diet only). Spoke to dr this morning and he said it was my choice whether to start taking pills at weekend. Am not sure what to do.


Hi @Addy66,

You quote a lower reading but as you have only been diagnosed for two weeks I wonder where this reading comes from. What is a finger prick reading? If so, that is just a snapshot and really doesn't tell you much.

Are you monitoring your blood sugars and taking readings at the appropriate time?

A lot really depends on the readings you are getting as to whether you take the SR version or not. Metformin only lowers levels between 1 or 2 and takes a while to build up in your system over a period of time by slowly increasing the dose.
 
I'm also in agreement with AndBreathe. I have never been on meds. In fact they were never mentioned when I was first diagnosed, and haven't been since. I was given 3 months to try diet and exercise. This worked for me. It is always worth a try. If you can't manage then you can always take the pills later.
 
Concur. Any figures for us us to go by?

Only figures I have at the moment are the blood count ones. Cholestral is being done next week.

Thank you for your replies. Think I am going to try and maintain readings with diet only
 
image.jpg Addy welcome to the forum,to be honest I am on the fence with this one I did not take any meds for 4 weeks I am trying not to eat any carbs I have already lost 1 stone in weight.However I did have to see my doctor last Friday and he said that along with the diet I had to take Metformin so I am on SR Metformin I am on day 6 of taking it and have been feeling unwell.I think this is something you need discuss with your health care team.Goodluck with whatever you choose to do.
 
Personally? I would try without. Keep monitoring your bloods, and see how you go.

I have never taken any meds for diabetes, and it is possible to make and maintain a difference without drugs. Not everyone's body can cope with it, but if yours can, surely it must be better to allow it to work as nature intended. If you find, despite your best efforts your numbers go up, then you have the option to start the SR.

There's something very gratifying to know that "I did this", rather than wondering how much is me and how much has been achieved by a pill.

Some people feel Metformin has other health benefits, so they have arguments valid for them, and you should listen to their side of the story too.

Diabetes is rarely cut and dried..


I am also trying to do without meds and seems to be reasonably successful so far - although it is early days.

I do think fewer carbs, weight loss (I was never that heavy !) and exercise is the key to beat T2.
 
Hi. If you are overweigth I would suggest taking the Met as it does help reduce insulin resistance. If not I would just stick with a good low-carb diet at present. I've been on Met full dose for 10 years now 'cos my GP didn't spot I was thin and a LADA rather than T2. I'm still on it as it does have some other health benefits and does reduce the appetite a little. It's a very safe well-proven drug
 
Diet and exercise , this is my advice
Too ..!.
Medicine later ( May be ) but not
Yet....
:) Regards
 
@Addy66

Hello Addy and welcome to the forum :)

Maybe this will help you. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to answer you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi Addy, since you mention perhaps trying diet only I wondered if you would be interested in reading this thread which may be of interest to you

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/

I agree with the others about metformin, it does help reduce insulin resistance and I never had any problems with it. I believe with long term use one downside is that it can deplete the body of vitamin B12, but all in all it's a good drug particularly if you have lots of weight to lose.

Oh and welcome to the forum from me :)
 
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