Unsure of diagnosis and confused!

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
I've been feeling ill on and off for ages and have only felt normal and well for 2 maybe 3 days since November.
I have had blood tests over the past 2 weeks. 1st one was borderline and the second was on Tuesday and in the diabetic range.... have been sent to hospital on Wednesday and had HB1AC test done and my blood sugar is now back at 46 and right on the borderline.
So I think I'm prediabetic... but within 24 hours is it possible to test as diabetic, then next day not??
I hadn't eaten when I had my blood tests done, as feeling too sick to eat in a morning at the moment. Will this have made any difference??

Steve
 

Phoenix55

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Welcome @Steviechurch74 The one thing any diabetic will tell you is that our bodies are all different and react differently to what we have eaten or not, the stress of a situation and any number of other factors. you are probably borderline pre-diabetic and with a change of diet, and more exercise you can probably control the situation. I will tag @daisy1 will come along with a lot of useful information for newbies. It will surprise you to find that with a change of diet you will start to feel better, and with the arrival of Spring (assuming you are in the UK) you will be able to get out and about more easily.
 
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Eating or not before the HbA1c makes no difference at all. A result of 46 puts you firmly in the Pre Diabetes range.

up to 41 non Diabetes
42 to 47 Pre Diabetes
Over 48 Type 2 Diabetes.

Tagging @daisy1 for the welcome pack for you. Have a wander around the site and ask as many questions as you like. Welcome to the forum, btw.
 
Messages
19
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Eating or not before the HbA1c makes no difference at all. A result of 46 puts you firmly in the Pre Diabetes range.

up to 41 non Diabetes
42 to 47 Pre Diabetes
Over 48 Type 2 Diabetes.

Tagging @daisy1 for the welcome pack for you. Have a wander around the site and ask as many questions as you like. Welcome to the forum, btw.
Eating or not before the HbA1c makes no difference at all. A result of 46 puts you firmly in the Pre Diabetes range.

up to 41 non Diabetes
42 to 47 Pre Diabetes
Over 48 Type 2 Diabetes.

Tagging @daisy1 for the welcome pack for you. Have a wander around the site and ask as many questions as you like. Welcome to the forum, btw.

Thanks for making me feel welcome. I’ve got plenty of reading to do! As well as healthy eating and exercise when I find some energy from somewhere.

I think what had confused me most is Tuesdays sugars being 48 and told im in the diabetic range then Wednesday 46.

Steve
 

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Thanks for making me feel welcome. I’ve got plenty of reading to do! As well as healthy eating and exercise when I find some energy from somewhere.

I think what had confused me most is Tuesdays sugars being 48 and told im in the diabetic range then Wednesday 46.

Steve

The difference is because the test is just an average of glycated cells that are 8-12 weeks old.
 

LouWilk059

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Thanks for making me feel welcome. I’ve got plenty of reading to do! As well as healthy eating and exercise when I find some energy from somewhere.

I think what had confused me most is Tuesdays sugars being 48 and told im in the diabetic range then Wednesday 46.

Steve
Welcome! If you eat low carb, you will have the energy. That's what makes it so great. You should read up on it and give it a try, even for say just four weeks.

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/low-carb-diabetes-diet.html
 

NicoleC1971

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Pump
HI and welcome. I think the labels are confusing but diabetes t2 is a process of your body gradually getting less tolerant of the carbs you are eating. This process started a while ago most likely before you had the symptom of elevated blood glucose levels/feeling unwell. The labels pre-diabetic and diabetic just mark a place on that spectrum at which a GP may advise medication but hopefully some of the dietary changes discussed on this site might nip all of this in tbe bud and reverse you into non-diabetic levels. The HBA1c can be thought of as a mean average of all the sugar that your blood cells have seen across the last 8-12 weeks so this will naturally change day to day as new red blood cells are turned over. Good luck with doing yoru homework to get clued up about this early on!
 

daisy1

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@Steviechurch74

Hello Steve and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Freema

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
I've been feeling ill on and off for ages and have only felt normal and well for 2 maybe 3 days since November.
I have had blood tests over the past 2 weeks. 1st one was borderline and the second was on Tuesday and in the diabetic range.... have been sent to hospital on Wednesday and had HB1AC test done and my blood sugar is now back at 46 and right on the borderline.
So I think I'm prediabetic... but within 24 hours is it possible to test as diabetic, then next day not??
I hadn't eaten when I had my blood tests done, as feeling too sick to eat in a morning at the moment. Will this have made any difference??

Steve


here is a scheme where you can see the normal levels of HbA1c, note onæy the green area is the normal non diabetic level
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