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Urine sticks always negative.

Andy E

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Can anyone tell me why my urine test strips always come out negative no matter what time of day I test, up to 5/6 times a day but my last two fasting blood tests done at the hospital come out positive 7.5?
 
Hi and welcome to the forum @Andy E
The urine sticks are a very poor tool to measure blood sugars. I think I have read that they do not show a result unless your blood sugar is 10 or over.

Have you asked your surgery to provide you with a meter and test strips?
 
Thanks,
When they took the test they did say just what you have said, blood test is more accurate.
I'm not defiantly diagnosed as Diabetic yet, I'm waiting on the test results of a blood test (tomorrow) I had an occupational health check a couple of weeks three weeks ago and glucose showed up on the test stick, went straight to my G P and did another which also came up positive so he sent me for a blood test a week later which came back as 7.5 but as I said no positive result on a urine test no matter how often I do the test , I've used a whole pack of fifty (paranoid) I'm prepared for the worse, my father recently died through Diabetes complications after a 32 year period with Type 2, he was 75 when he died with Kidney failure but to be fair he wasn't very good at doing the right things to keep it in check!

Andy E
 
Hi Andy E. Welcome to the club. That result puts you at the high end of the pre diabetic range but at least you are in the right place to get yourself on track. With some changes now you should be able to reduce your chanxes of getting diabetes. The main thing is to start reducing your obvious sugars and carbs and go from there. It is also a good idea to purchase a meter so you can keep track of your BS and see what foods spike you and which you can tolerate. Dont be afraid to ask questions we are happy to help.
 
Thanks, I've booked an appointment with the diabetic nurse for next week, any tips on what definitely not to eat and which is the best meter to buy?
The doctor seemed to think two results wasn't too bad and with life style changes thing should look better, since the first bad urine stick result I've been watching what I eat and have been to the gym every day, lost stone in a month, I'm hoping the whole thing turns out to be a wake up call!

Andy E
 
the SC codefree meter has cheap test strips, the main ongoing expense. I will tag @daisy1 who has some great info for newbies she can post for you.
 
It is a wake up call but with good management on your part you should be fine. Lots of above ground veg are great. Try to cut down or cut out completely on things like potatoes, pasta, rice, bread ect. There are a lot of low carb alternative recipes out there, I get mine off Pinterest mostly. Have a good look in the low carb forum for some ideas. I cant offer you much advice about a meter sorry as Im from NZ and they are different over here.
 
@Andy E

Hello Andy and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members which will give you a lot of information about low carb dieting which is very advisable to help keep your levels down. Testing with strips and meter is also advisable now. Lots of good advice above from members, ask more questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks,
Going to miss my ice cold pint of dry Cider and liquorice, going on holiday next week I've heard red wine is the best alcoholic drink but is a lager ok

Andy E
 
Can anyone recommend a good Whole Grain bread, I've been buying whole meal which turns out to be not so good!

Andy E
 
Can anyone recommend a good Whole Grain bread, I've been buying whole meal which turns out to be not so good!

Andy E
Try Hovis Seeded Sensations but there are a couple of varieties so look at the nutritional info - the one I have is 13g carbs per slice. Lidl do high protein rolls which are popular with many members, inc me, on here. However as we are all different you need to test to see what affect these have on your BS levels. I'm lucky in that I can eat about 1.5 slices but many diabetics cannot. Hope this helps
 
Been away for a while, everything's been going well, lost 2 stone in weight and exercise regularly.
Normal test results go from 5.0 to 6.8, but today I got a 9.0 after getting back from the gym (weight training) what happened, hadn't had this before, it would normally be lower?

Andy
 
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