Vegetable Oils Make You Fat And Cause Chronic Disease

[biohacked.entrepreneur]

For anyone who’s looked into and reasearched the health effects of different omega-6 containing vegetable oils, you’ll quickly find that there’s a strong connection between all of them and the major degenerative diseases such as diabetes, cancer, heart disease, alzheimer’s and even obesity.

Here are a couple of excerpts from the full text studies that I found particularily interesting:

On obesity from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23249760:

‘Recent studies have emphasized the proadipogenic properties of the omega-6 PUFA, and provided evidence that rodents fed on diets with omega-6 PUFA contents similar to the typical US diet (6–8% energy) have an increased fat mass. Importantly, recent studies have shown that perinatal exposure to a high omega-6 PUFA diet results in a progressive accumulation of body fat across generations.’

On chronic disease from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18408140:

‘Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today’s Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases...’

On chronic disease from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22570770:

‘...high intake of n-6 PUFA, along with low intakes of n-3 PUFA, shifts the physiological state to one that is proinflammatory and prothrombotic with increases in vasospasm, vasoconstriction, and blood viscosity and the development of diseases associated with these conditions.’

So if you HAVE to cook with oil (which I don’ t recommend) using something like MCT oil or adding olive oil to salad might be less harmful compared to n-6 oils. Even then, fats in general, also those in olive oil have been connected to diabetes and MCT oil/coconut oil has some pretty potent cholesterol raising effects.

This is certainly common knowledge around here but I find that researching these connections on my own gives me a more complete understanding rather than just taking somebody’s word for it. I find it’s also easier to stay on a diet and avoid the harmful foods if you are constantly reading studies and seeing evidence everywhere on their negative effects yourself.

If you have more reaserch to add, I’d appreciate it.

 

[Guzzler]

May I enquire what your stance is on animal fats? And could you elucidate on "cholesterol raising" fats and the connection between olive oil and diabetes, please. This last point is most important to me. Thanks.

 

[badcat]

As I understand it, the ratio of omega 3:0mega 6 is important and excessive amounts of either is not good - a ratio of 1:1 is cited by some as ideal with the current western diet showing a much higher proportion of omega 6 as opposed to omega 3 - this imbalace is seen to be pro inflammatory and causative in many health problems.
http://www.gbhealthwatch.com/Science-Omega3-Omega6.php

 

[Kristin251]

As I understand it, the ratio of omega 3:0mega 6 is important and excessive amounts of either is not good - a ratio of 1:1 is cited by some as ideal with the current western diet showing a much higher proportion of omega 6 as opposed to omega 3 - this imbalace is seen to be pro inflammatory and causative in many health problems.
http://www.gbhealthwatch.com/Science-Omega3-Omega6.php

Agreed. Too much omega 3 isn't good either. As always....balance.

Avocado and olive oil are both perfectly healthy. Same with macadamia nuts.

 

[biohacked.entrepreneur]

May I enquire what your stance is on animal fats? And could you elucidate on "cholesterol raising" fats and the connection between olive oil and diabetes, please. This last point is most important to me. Thanks.

Here's a great video by Dr. Michael Greger on the connection between coconut oil/MCT oil and cholesterol:

The short answer in terms of my opinion on animal fats is that they are bad. There are almost too many studies to post - increase in all cause mortality, inflammation, weight gain, chronic disease. Might do a seperate thread on those at some point.

Olive oil is certainly a lot more controversial and there is some contradictory evidence out there in terms of it's consumption and chronic disease risk. It's certainly not nearly as bad as animal fat based on all the evidence I've seen. There's a probable link but I don't think I've gotten a good idea of the balance of evidence on it - there are certainly studies showing positive effects (though there might be confounding factors, especially in terms of research on the Mediterrian diet).

 

[Guzzler]

Here's a great video by Dr. Michael Greger on the connection between coconut oil/MCT oil and cholesterol:

The short answer in terms of my opinion on animal fats is that they are bad. There are almost too many studies to post - increase in all cause mortality, inflammation, weight gain, chronic disease. Might do a seperate thread on those at some point.

Olive oil is certainly a lot more controversial and there is some contradictory evidence out there in terms of it's consumption and chronic disease risk. It's certainly not nearly as bad as animal fat based on all the evidence I've seen. There's a probable link but I don't think I've gotten a good idea of the balance of evidence on it - there are certainly studies showing positive effects (though there might be confounding factors, especially in terms of research on the Mediterrian diet).

Thank you for your replies. From what you have said I can see clearly where you are coming from.

 

[Kristin251]

Here's a great video by Dr. Michael Greger on the connection between coconut oil/MCT oil and cholesterol:

The short answer in terms of my opinion on animal fats is that they are bad. There are almost too many studies to post - increase in all cause mortality, inflammation, weight gain, chronic disease. Might do a seperate thread on those at some point.

Olive oil is certainly a lot more controversial and there is some contradictory evidence out there in terms of it's consumption and chronic disease risk. It's certainly not nearly as bad as animal fat based on all the evidence I've seen. There's a probable link but I don't think I've gotten a good idea of the balance of evidence on it - there are certainly studies showing positive effects (though there might be confounding factors, especially in terms of research on the Mediterrian diet).

I don't believe coconut oil is a healthy fat. The fact it makes me nauseous and gives me a headache is a clear indicator. I've seen so many times people talking about raised cholesterol. As I've said, avocado, olives, olive oil and a moderate amount of nuts are good fats. Add fish and a good balance. I do eat lean poultry even though higher in omega 6 it suits my bs and digestion. I don't by any means eat large amounts ts of animal fat however fat is essential for life

 

[Indy51]

Here's a great video by Dr. Michael Greger on the connection between coconut oil/MCT oil and cholesterol:

The short answer in terms of my opinion on animal fats is that they are bad. There are almost too many studies to post - increase in all cause mortality, inflammation, weight gain, chronic disease. Might do a seperate thread on those at some point.

Olive oil is certainly a lot more controversial and there is some contradictory evidence out there in terms of it's consumption and chronic disease risk. It's certainly not nearly as bad as animal fat based on all the evidence I've seen. There's a probable link but I don't think I've gotten a good idea of the balance of evidence on it - there are certainly studies showing positive effects (though there might be confounding factors, especially in terms of research on the Mediterrian diet).

Michael Greger? An expose:

https://www.humanewatch.org/hsus_doc_exposed_as_schlock/

 

[Guzzler]

Michael Greger? An expose:

https://www.humanewatch.org/hsus_doc_exposed_as_schlock/

So he uses the 'Key's' method. Skewing facts to suit his theory. Nice (not).

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

Michael Greger? An expose:

https://www.humanewatch.org/hsus_doc_exposed_as_schlock/

He is a vegan propagandist.

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

I do my scrambled eggs in avocado oil

I do mine in bacon fat. Delicious and nutritious!!

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

beats crisco

Bacon fat beats most things.

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

I'd rather have the bacon itself, crispy, mountain of ready rashers, personally, although in the prediabetic days I used to make an old fashioned recipe with stone ground corn meal, bacon fat and soda, sometimes throw in some onion bits and something or another green, form them in patties, fry those hoe cakes, serve em with jam, just saying....

I'd rather have the bacon and the bacon fat.