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Is it possible to eat too many vegetables? I am type 2 and need to loose at least 2 stone. My levels are usually in the 6 -8s but normally 7s
 
Depends on what kind of vegetables.
It's practically impossible to eat too many leafy veggies, but roots can be overdone. they contain considerable carbs. Peas and beans too contain significant carbs.
If you want to lose wewight by low carbing, you can follow one of the many low carb wweight loss plans, Protein Power, South BEach or Atkins. Atkins will certainly tell you which veggies are high carb.
In fact the Atkins diet is near perfect for an overweight T2.
 
Hi,

I have been recently diagnosed, and need to loose 2 stones at least. I am having only vegetables now, no roots, no white carbs, no sugar. However, it is quite hard as there's so little I can think of eating as I have high cholesterol too and cannot do Atkins etc,. I am on metformin 2 x 500mg and Atovast 1 x20 mg, and Aspirin on low dose one daily.

Anyone with similar challenges and would wish to share their suggestions ?

Thank you,

Cheers :|
 
Vegetables! I love em! I have them roasted in the oven. Asda do a great frozen range so I buy aubergines, broccoli, cauliflower, baby corn (not too much of that as it is starchy) carrots, asparagus, mushrooms and spinach etc.
Then I chop up an onion into quarters and stick a bit of each vegetable in a roasting pan. Add a dash of olive oil and salt and pepper. A bit of balsamic is nice too. Then roast on a high heat for about 20 minutes. Delicious!
 
Hi justconfused,

That sounds like a very restricted diet, possibly deficient in a number of essential nutrients (not that I'm a dietician or anything!) You say your cholesterol is raised, but are you aware that only a small proportion of the cholesterol in your diet finds it's way into your bloodstream?

Around 15-20% of your cholesterol is derived this way, with the remaining 80-85% being made by your liver and body cells. Insulin is the main driver in this production line and will simultaneously lower HDL (good) cholesterol, raise LDL (bad) cholesterol and raise triglycerides which are a far more significant risk factor in any event. In other words, a diet which restricts fatty foods in favour of carbohydrates will raise insulin levels and have a negative impact on heart disease risk factors.

All the best,

fergus
 
This restrictive diet was put on me by the doctor who foudn out that I should not eat any rice, any flour, anything with carbs and fat. But also told me I could eat wholewhaet bread ! Quiet confusing. So, when I have not been feeling well at all, I have cheated and taken half a slice with a pin haed of butter and I have felt alive again ...
 
Very very odd, being advised not to eat flour, and yet to eat wholemeal bread! Aside from a little extra fibre, the flour in wholmeal bread will do exactly what all breads do - raise your blood sugar.
Why were you advised to eat less fat? Fat is the one food that won't raise your blood sugar which is why it used to be recommended to diabetics instead of sugars and starches.

Unfortunately, when researchers misunderstood the causes of heart disease post WW11, fat was suddenly off the menu and diabetes and obesity rates began to climb.

You have a lot to think about right now, but when you're ready, have a look at the Success Stories thread in the low carb area and you'll see how many people have re-thought the dietary advice on offer and found lots of benefits.

All the best,

fergus
 
i heard broccoli promotes damage vein repair. so it's really good for us diabetics. :) and its tastey!

I try to eat lots of veg, as much as i can.

But as already stated, the root veg like potato's you shuold be weary of because they contain a lot of carbs.
 
fergus said:
Very very odd, being advised not to eat flour, and yet to eat wholemeal bread! Aside from a little extra fibre, the flour in wholmeal bread will do exactly what all breads do - raise your blood sugar.
Why were you advised to eat less fat? Fat is the one food that won't raise your blood sugar which is why it used to be recommended to diabetics instead of sugars and starches.

Unfortunately, when researchers misunderstood the causes of heart disease post WW11, fat was suddenly off the menu and diabetes and obesity rates began to climb.
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IMO it's partly "magical thinking", being fat is not good for you and eating fat must make you fat (although all farmers vets etc. know that it's carbs you use to fatten animals) and partly the fact that fat contains more calories per gram than protein or carbs, which ignores the fact that it is more satiating, so you eat less of *everything*.
 
Vegetables are scrummy. I love most vegetables. Usually I have a small bowl od mixed vegetable with something small and nice on top. Tonight it was sprouts, broccoli, carrots, half a Marks & Spencers beef slice with gravy. We always buy things like the slice and split it between the 2 of us. That way we can have something nice but not go overboard with it. Appreciate it much better that way. :D
 
Hello Justconfused, I was diagnosed pre-type 2 several months ago so I sypathise. I have lost a smidge over 2 stone (from 14st 7lb, 5'11" tall) by simply cutting out food with added sugar. For example I used to have porridge with Nestlles condensed milk on it. I now have porridge (still made with water) but with low fat cream on it (yummy). I also used to eat a lot of sweets (Winegums etc) but had to cut them out. I also cut out white bread for Wholemeal. I mis white bread with fish and chips 9only have F+C once per week). I also eat reasonable amount of fruit, generally 2 pieces for my morning break and 3 with my sandwich lunch. I used to have a soya dessert for my lunch until I discovered it contained 14g sugar, so I cut that out. Went to diet fizzy drinks, preferring Pepsi Max.
For tea I tend to have either chicken or pork with new potatoes, carrotts and cabbage. For sweet I usually have tinned fruit and cream, and for supper wheatabix with full fat milk and a touch of low fat cream.
After six months I have stagnated my weight loss but my blood sugar is down a smidge from 6 (or just over) to 5.8 I now need to look at taking more exercise (I'm 51)

Hope this helps.
Regards
Stephen
 
Thanks Everyone for sharing all your lovely suggestions. I will have to work around to get my meals edible and non boring as I do have the luck of having any goodies catered for people with Diabetes not anything low fat or Light here ! It is still unknown and would raise an eyebrow if asked for it at the supermarket. I have learnt that Diabetes is raging in Vietnam because of the bad diet and lack of exercise, one would never think of that when you see the size of the local people. Quite puzzling but everyone is genetically predisposed in a different manner. Some might be a size zero and yet be very Diabetic.
Anyway, here I come my greens, again and again, and again !

Cheers
 
Good luck, sounds like you are on the up! Keep up the good work and you will win your battle. Living in a less aware country must be difficult at times but aslong as you stick to your guns, you will soon feel loads better!
 
justconfused said:
Thanks Everyone for sharing all your lovely suggestions. I will have to work around to get my meals edible and non boring as I do have the luck of having any goodies catered for people with Diabetes not anything low fat or Light here ! It is still unknown and would raise an eyebrow if asked for it at the supermarket. I have learnt that Diabetes is raging in Vietnam because of the bad diet and lack of exercise, one would never think of that when you see the size of the local people. Quite puzzling but everyone is genetically predisposed in a different manner. Some might be a size zero and yet be very Diabetic.
Anyway, here I come my greens, again and again, and again !

Cheers
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Non-obese obesity. Not uncommon (BTDT)

I wonder if the increased prevalence is due to replacing rice with Americanised diets including wheat?
 
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