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Vegetarian low-carb diet

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hillie5*

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How do other veggie folk with pre-diabetes plan their meals? Anyone know of a good carbs counter app that contains all the veggie foods rather than meat...?
 
I don't know of an app, but just thought you might like to know that Morrisons have a good selection of plant based soya free bits that I have just bought and going to try out. They have pea protein in rather than soya, its the soya that makes me feel sick so thought I would try it. I am not a veggie but like to try these things :happy:
 
hillie5* said:
How do other veggie folk with pre-diabetes plan their meals? Anyone know of a good carbs counter app that contains all the veggie foods rather than meat...?
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I have found some sources, Diabetes UK have a meal plan which is very helpful, it gives the carbs for each meal. There is also Eatingwell.com who also have lots of good sounding recipes too. I have managed to plan my week and shop for it and feel much happier now. I hope you find them useful.
 
For carb counting, Cronometer has all the NCCDB and USDA vegies in their database. I know that those are US values but I compared them with the Australian food database and the macronutrients (carbs, fat, protein) are generally the same — as expected… a carrot is a carrot after all. I imagine that this would be the same for any country. Where things differed was for vitamin and mineral content probably because minerals come from the ground and water which obviously vary from country to country (and even within a country, these are all average values after all). But if you’re only interested in carbs you can just ignore everything else. If you do decide to use cronometer I would personally double-check the carb values it has with your country’s data if available, especially at the start and depending on how close you need the carb measurement to be (remembering that all are averages as well). Also if you do decide to use cronometer make sure to set things to ‘net carbs’ in the preferences if it’s net carbs you’re counting (I think it defaults to total carbs). Edit: I just checked and yeah if you decide to use cronometer and are counting net carbs you have to set that in preferences. Also by defaut cronometer doesn’t include fructose in net carbs so you’d probably want to change that in preferences as well
 
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There are some big differences between USDA values and EU ones for some vegetables - one I remember is for leeks:

usda (per 100g)
61 kcal, 14.2g carbohydrates, fibre 1.8g, sugars 3.9g, protein 1.5g

Tesco uk (per 100g)
27kcal, 2.9g carbohydrates, fibre 2.2g, sugars 2.2g, protein 1.6g

As you can see, a big difference. I presume the Americans and Europeans are growing different varieties…

For vegetarian, I follow the standard low carb plan of high fat, lots of leafy greens, cream, full fat milk and yoghurt, lots of cheese, eggs, in addition I use Quorn, tofu and seitan. I have increased my carb allowance up to 50g and include legumes and pulses; lentils, chickpeas, kidney beans, peas, broad beans etc. I still avoid potatoes, rice, pasta and other grain based foods - bread, biscuits, crackers, cakes, pearl barley and so on.

so breakfast yesterday was Greek yoghurt with peanut butter stirred in.

yesterday’s lunch was mixed salad leaves dressed with olive oil and toasted sesame seeds, baked fennel and carrots in a creamy, cheesy sauce with a hazelnut crumb topping, and shredded cabbage, shallots, beetroot and a couple of cherry tomatoes in a balsamic vinegar and olive oil dressing.

supper was homemade carrot, ginger and red lentil soup
 
Yeah I should have stressed the check more because there are differences. Bok choy is another example which is very different in the USDA compared to to AU database — I’m not even sure they’re referring to the same vegetable never mind variety. It didn’t take me long though to create custom foods for those that I found differed a lot during my comparison or when having a new vegetable
 
If you are still struggling the NHS will fund a subscription for the lowcarbprogram in some areas. Apart from menu plans that include vegetarian and vegan plans, and there is an app to enter everything you eat and drink each day to calculate your macros.
 
Lobsang Tsultim said:
There are some big differences between USDA values and EU ones for some vegetables - one I remember is for leeks:

usda (per 100g)
61 kcal, 14.2g carbohydrates, fibre 1.8g, sugars 3.9g, protein 1.5g

Tesco uk (per 100g)
27kcal, 2.9g carbohydrates, fibre 2.2g, sugars 2.2g, protein 1.6g

As you can see, a big difference. I presume the Americans and Europeans are growing different varieties…

For vegetarian, I follow the standard low carb plan of high fat, lots of leafy greens, cream, full fat milk and yoghurt, lots of cheese, eggs, in addition I use Quorn, tofu and seitan. I have increased my carb allowance up to 50g and include legumes and pulses; lentils, chickpeas, kidney beans, peas, broad beans etc. I still avoid potatoes, rice, pasta and other grain based foods - bread, biscuits, crackers, cakes, pearl barley and so on.

so breakfast yesterday was Greek yoghurt with peanut butter stirred in.

yesterday’s lunch was mixed salad leaves dressed with olive oil and toasted sesame seeds, baked fennel and carrots in a creamy, cheesy sauce with a hazelnut crumb topping, and shredded cabbage, shallots, beetroot and a couple of cherry tomatoes in a balsamic vinegar and olive oil dressing.

supper was homemade carrot, ginger and red lentil soup
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Sounds fabulous! do you keep to around 50g carbs per day?
 
TriciaWs said:
If you are still struggling the NHS will fund a subscription for the lowcarbprogram in some areas. Apart from menu plans that include vegetarian and vegan plans, and there is an app to enter everything you eat and drink each day to calculate your macros.
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What is the NHS funded low-carb programme you mention? I have had virtually no help from the NHS locally to me.
 
hillie5* said:
Sounds fabulous! do you keep to around 50g carbs per day?
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Yes, I keep to 50g of carbs a day even allowing fort the consumption of beans and an occasional carrot. If I go over this, my blood sugars start to climb so that’s my limit. it’s actually not too difficult once you make the mental switch away from bread, potatoes etc. I now find a lettuce wrap preferable to the thought of a bread sandwich :)
 
hillie5* said:
How do other veggie folk with pre-diabetes plan their meals? Anyone know of a good carbs counter app that contains all the veggie foods rather than meat...?
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cutting carbs I'm finding difficult..I can't imagine cutting meat too how or why ❓
sry if that wasn't helpful but maybe your saving the planet I don't know is fish allowed❓
 
LouisLane said:
cutting carbs I'm finding difficult..I can't imagine cutting meat too how or why ❓
sry if that wasn't helpful but maybe your saving the planet I don't know is fish allowed❓
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Yes cutting carbs isn't always easy I am finding. i have 4 grandchildren locally to me and am often tempted by the crusts of bread they like cut off for their sandwiches etc - or a left over piece of pizza....
I have been a vegetarian for 44 years so wouldn't change that now but and in the last 10 years I have started to eat fish pretty much every week, for all the obvious health reasons.
 
Hillie, be kind to yourself. You are not a dustbin. Eating the children's leftovers will not save the planet, and will make you ill. If you like, you could soak the bread in a little water and give it to the birds. Hugs.
 
Hi, i do a low carb veggie diet.
Do you have a meter?
In the early days I tested a lot to see effect of food and different combinations.
I don't eat much interms of processed foods (but I do have cheese , yogurt and tofu)
Have a look on the veggie forum for some ideas.
I do have a carbs and cals book that is great for comparing different veg.
 
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