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goose64

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I went to the doctoes last week & I've been having blood tests to do with another matter & she tols me that my blood sugars are high & have moved into the diabetic range. All she did was tell me the lvels were at 8.9 (non-fasting) and that I should read a folder she gave me & that I should make changes to my diet.

Is this normal? should I have been referred or will she wait until my next blood test to see if dietary changes are enough?

I'm finding the change really hard as I used to eat a carb heavy diet & have been constantly hungry since reducing them considerably
 
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goose64 said:
I went to the doctoes last week & I've been having blood tests to do with another matter & she tols me that my blood sugars are high & have moved into the diabetic range. All she did was tell me the lvels were at 8.9 (non-fasting) and that I should read a folder she gave me & that I should make changes to my diet.

Is this normal? should I have been referred or will she wait until my next blood test to see if dietary changes are enough?

I'm finding the change really hard as I used to eat a carb heavy diet & have been constantly hungry since reducing them considerably

Hi Changesand a different lifestyle can be very difficult and I'm sure in time it will start to get easier for you. But the benefits will outway the negatives :wink: As for your doctors appointment, sounds as helpful as a chocolate teapot :shock: You could go online for information or go back to doctors and ask for some proper positive support. Take care and best wishes RRB
 

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Doctors like to use the HbA1c blood tests to see how you are doing with managing your diabetes.

The trouble is they tend to do it maybe every 3 months or so at the start and that gets stretched out to every 6 or 12 months as your control gets better.

You need to ask the doctor if you are diabetic or not, "moved into the diabetic range" probably means that you are diabetic, but it would be useful to be given a firm diagnosis.

Most doctors do not like home testing using meters and strips, but the vast majority of those on here would disagree with the doctors on this point. Home testing is essential in the early months after diagnosis, it will allow you to see what foods affect your BGs and to see any trends (hopefully downward) in your BGs.
8.9 non fasting is not a very bad reading, it would depend on what was eaten and when, non the less, it is in the diabetic range and needs some sort of treatment. It may be diet and excercise will do the job or you might need some medication.

I suggest you ask your doctor if a GTT (Glucose tolerance test) would be useful in your case. I stongly think it may be very useful :roll:

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Hi

The diagnostic test for diabetes is a fasting glucose test. A non-fasting test may show higher glucose because of recent consumption of food or drink.

I think that you need to ask your GP for a fasting test and, if necessary a glucose tolerance test. You really need to know what your blood sugar status is. If you have diabetes then you will be entitled to regular checks on a number of things such as eyes and feet. Your blood pressure and blood lipids (fats) are also important along with your liver and kidney function.

Take care

Doug
 
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Ive got my first appointment with diabetic nurse tomorrow, my fasting blood was 8.2 and 8.6 , have had glucose tolerance tests done too...I have had no help from anyone since i was diagnosed, dont even know what type of questions I should be asking tomorrow or anything, but will see what happens tomorrow. Hope you get some answers soon from someone as its not nice knowing, I'm glad i found this forum, finding out more here than anywhere else

Sharon xx
 

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Hi Sharomac

I hope that all goes well at your first appointment. It is important that you ask your nurse/GP for a testing kit and test strips. That will enable you to see what effect various foods have on your blood sugar levels. The National Framework for Diabetes says that your diabetes care should be a partnership between you and your healthcare professionals. You need to be enabled to play your part of the partnership and an important in that is knowing how your body reacts to various foods. You might find this document helpful as to what care to expect:

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/upload/About ... cklist.pdf

Take care

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Thanks Doug, will have a look at it now, need my fill of questions for tomorrow :)

Thanks again

Sharon x
 

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unfortunately it's a common enough story.
The medical profession sometimes don't take diabetes seriously and don't appreciate their patient's fear and distress. When they do give advice, there's no guarantee it's helpful.
Search this board for advice to newbies.
You can learn pretty much all you need in this place
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Hi Sharon and welcome to the forum :)
This is the information for newbies that Hana referred to in her post. Keep on asking questions as there is always someone here to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.