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vibrating watch to help with toilet use!

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debbiezoe

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Hi all,

I am just wondering has anyone ever used a vibrating watch to help with toilet breaks! Zoe comes home from school everyday soaking with pee! She had admitted that she wont ask to use the toilet in school, the teacher has also said she doesnt ask! Its not a result of high sugars, if anything she would be low rather than high!

We spent yesterday taking some of her toys aways as a punishment but it doesnt seem to have annoyed her!

I have had urine sample after sample checked but al clear! The nurse thinks it could just be laziness on Zoes part!

Having searched online, i have come across a watch that will vibrate to alert her that its toilet time!
Any advice would be great!

debbie
 
Debbie.
Please take this advice in the spirit it is intended........the watch MIGHT be a good idea, however I would be more concerned to know why this is happening. She may be just lazy as the Nurse suggests.......she might also be frightened.

Punishing your daughter for this is not a good idea. She needs help, not sanctions. My daughter used to wet the bed for a while when she was at school. It was investigated by the medics and was eventually found to be down to stress. She was aged 7 yrs.

She had moved up a year and was finding all the new things difficult to cope with, homework etc.. Is she being bullied at school........all questions that need to be asked. We never dreamed of punishing her for that .......she needed help.

As a young diabetic (T1) she probably is finding things tough at school, having to inject, eat differently perhaps to other children ? Who knows what is going through her mind.

Take her to see your GP and ask for a referral if this is becoming a problem. There are many causes.....not just Diabetes. Hope you get things sorted out for your daughters sake.
 
She wet before we found out she was diabetic and it had stopped for a while when she was diagnosed, she stil wets the bed and her paedatric doctor has told me not to worry about it until after she is 7! She went to know on wed after te drama of the day before and came home dry! she admitted that she used the toilet 4 times but before admitted she never goes.

The reason for the punishment is because the diabetic team involved told me to treat zoe as any other child and not to blame everything on the diabetes! Zoe has no problem injecting herself in front of people and doesnt have a problem telling anyone about it!

She can hav good days when she tries so im begining to think it is laziness! She has no problems at the school, ive jus had an interview with the teacher!

i guess we all just have different parenting ways!
 
I can admit to you that I used to wet the bed - right until I was about 18ys. My Mum and me tried all sorts - from not drinking after tea. nothing seemed to work I used to get very upset and it stopped me going away overnight without my family May be It was because I slept too heavily [thankfully thats all in the past]
At school I also remember going home with wet knickers. I don't think it was lazeness - I think I was to frightened or maybe embarrassed.
Have you asked your daughter why she does it.? Hope it works out soon as I am sure it will.
 
Excellent website phoenix. I think that is the one that another of our members posted some while ago when a similar problem arose with another members child. I haven't found any mention of punishing a child who usually has no control over what is happening. It is all based on a system of rewards rather than punishment Respect for the child.

The child may be ill, have a weak bladder ? Many other reasons besides laziness. Should a child be punished for an illness ? That defies all logic ! She is near enough the age to be referred to a Specialist Clinic and as a parent I would be demanding that from my GP, not punishment.

This has nothing at all to do with different styles of parenting but more like a Victorian attitude towards a difficult childhood problem. How can any HCP in this day and age recommend punishing the poor child for this ? They need help and encouragement. It must be distressing enough for a child as it is without making the child feel worse by punishing it.

I'm sorry, but I find the thought of doing such a thing abhorrent. Reminds me very much of the at titude that some of the nuns who were Teachers at my primary school. They were cruel and had some strange ideas about child care and Education. Very sad. :(
 
Adults know when they are building up to needing the toilet, and about how long they can last before they need to go urgently. Children don't have that ability and develop it at different stages, they only know when they need to go NOW. They also don't have the forsight to think I must go now because I am going back into class and won't be able to go for a while.

It may be that she is a bit late developing the awarenss of when she is going to need the toilet and is only realising too late in class and is too embarrassed to ask to go.

I have also know children who hate using the school toilets because they are not like the ones at home or to full of other children at playtime.
 
"I'm sorry, but I find the thought of doing such a thing abhorrent. Reminds me very much of the at titude that some of the nuns who were Teachers at my primary school. They were cruel and had some strange ideas about child care and Education. Very sad."

You are making me out to sound like a horrible parent! I posted the message up for help! Not for you to name me and shame me in a way!

I have asked for help from the nurse and my GP and they keep telling me that she will out grow it, i am at my wits end!

It is upsetting enough without quotes like yours! I can safetly say i will not be posting any messages on the board in future!

I AM A GOOD PARENT AND MY CHILD IS VERY WELL LOOK AFTER! I THOUGHT TAKING THE TOYS AWAY WOULD HELP, AS A WARNING FOR HER TO TRY HARDER! I HAD TO RULE THE "LAZINESS" OUT OF THE WHOLE THING!
 
Oh dear ! A case of 'Shoot the Messenger,' it seems !

I am sure you are a very good parent. That is not the issue here. Something I have made no comment about actually until now.

You have just been given bad advice. Would you rather I lied and said that was a great idea ? Praise the advice you have been given ? I don't do things like that. I have not said anything otherwise. If you read what I said it is a criticism of Health Care Professionals who told you to punish your daughter. That is the clear point I made. Not a criticism of you - there is a difference.

This is a place where people pose questions and ask for advice or comments. Sometimes you might not agree with what is said. That is just something that happens. Its a discussion. It is often the case that many of us don't agree with HCP.s - a fact. What you read into a post is a matter for you. There is and was no intention to offend. Just a viewpoint which you were given. Some advice which I still stand by.

Instead of getting angry with me get angry with the HCP's who seem to be letting you down ! As a Father of two that is what I would do.......help is available if they would get off their backsides and do something ! My own experience with my daughter proved that.........but then, what do I know !
 
I hope you are still checking your posts - some thoughts from me as a special needs teacher (not suggesting your child is SEN) but I had a child in my class who they tried, tested, put on medication and everything - he just couldn't help but wet himself! He could be toiletted regularly throughout the day and still wet - there seemed to be no solution.
We never tried the watch idea (like it as a reminder) but we did find that he was worse with staff he didn't know and when we had him for 2 years he knew he could just go when he wanted - still had accidents and they were worse when he was involved in doing something. He has started wetting again as he has moved to a different part of the school - but one thing we noticed - he didn't seem to realise he needed to go - it would just happen - he made no signs of needing a wee and would quite often sit wet for a while until staff noticed it.

I am not sure what your answer is - can you have a chat with the school to see if they can take her to the toilet regularly so she gets into a routine?

You are doing your best - the fact that you have sought advice shows that - I hope that you can find a solution and that things get a little easier for you.
 
My son is 3 so a bit younger, but my tuppence worth anyway.

Could she be so wrapped up in what she is doing that she forgets untill it is urgent then either be too embaressed to ask for help. I know my son has accidents if he is poorly (she could be feeling off because of the t1) or because he is sooo wrapped up in what is going on that he is so involved in what he is doing he forgets untill it is too late. Would a star chart help? One dry day equals a star ten stars equals a treat like swimming or a new book. Helped my son and we used it with learning numbers too.

My freinds daughter had a problem similar, turned out her body wasn't making the chemical that told her brain she needed to pee. She grew out of it.

Good luck.
 
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