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Violent sickness/always tired

BeccaArchie

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
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Hey, I am having a fasting blood test tomorrow morning, following a gp appointment two days ago. Can I ask, did anybody have vomitting all the time and feel exhausted/a need to sleep during the day?

I have been sick for several week, along with other symptoms and GP seems to think diabetes. Xx
 
It's certainly a possible diagnosis , but could also be due to other conditions . Did your GP do a finger prick test, and if so, what was the result ?

Signy
 
Hello and welcome, I agree with heathenlass here, it could also be something else.
Good luck and all the best for a good result.

RRB
 
Thankyou, Urm yeah he did prick my finger.. He didn't say what for though?
He told me the result was 3.9? Is that good :/

I've got to hand in a pee sample, and fast from 9pm til I get my blood taken in the morning.
X
 
Hi and welcome. Diabetes should not normally cause vomitting so that will almost certainly be some other problem that needs investigation. Yes, diabetes can cause some poeple to be tired. Has the GP done any blood sugar level checks? Without that he must be guessing?
 
3.9 is low. Would be surprised if it was Diabetes. Good luck
 
Sorry, I missed the post about the finger prick etc. Yes, 3.9 is very low and going into the hypo area and not indicative of diabetes, but the fasting test may help a bit
 
Thanks ever so much for you comments, I have been ill for several weeks and always reluctant to visit the drs.

Other issues are hot flashes, sleeping all the time, waking in night with dry mouth, drinking loads and loads of water but still thirsty, sweet smelly breath, and occasionally becoming disorientated/dizzy. But this vomitting is after food, or fluids, anytime of the day, just projectile. It's taking over my life.

Hopefully fasting tests will show more over the next few days. Xx
 
Thankyou uart, that really helps and relates well to me! I had fasting blood test, and again it's another 4-5days wait. My blood sugars on the pin prick this morning were 2.8, they gave me a couple of biscuits and sent me on my way again, no answers, no communication, nothing. Feeling dissappointed and more anxious xx
 

Wow, 2.8 (I'm assuming that's mmol/L) is super low - dangerously low. The normal range is about 4 to 5.5, but many of us here with diabetes have struggled with levels up around 20 or more.

If it is reactive hypoglycaemia, then ironically you may actually benefit from following some of the diet guidelines that the diabetics here are using (even though yours is kinda the opposite problem). Reactive hypoglycaemia is basically when carbs and sugar are over stimulating your insulin response to a disproportionately high level, and so causing those dangerously low levels. The slower release energy of some fats (cold pressed coconut oil for example) might keep your levels more stable, as often helps with diabetes.
 
That is so helpful, thankyou!
Very appreciated.
Yes, this morning I felt like I was just floating around on another planet, just so disoriented and almost like being on a roundabout! A few choc biscuits and some juice I perked up and felt better, very strange! But all would make sense now you have said they are so low!
Is this a case of diet change and just awaiting blood test results then? Xx
 
hi @BeccaArchie.

I have RH. If you can read up on it, but mine was different symptoms.
The low you had as a fasting blood is a symptom of Hypoglycaemia, not reactive Hypoglycaemia
If you look at Wikipedia, and look up both Hypoglycaemia and Reactive Hypoglycaemia, you will get an idea of what happens.
You could cut the carbs and sugars directly out of your diet. Look at the low carb forum.
I practically lived off meat and salad! Eat smaller portions more often.
If you have read the RH thread. You will see its not a common condition. And doctors struggle to diagnose it.
I do believe you need to be referred to a endocrinologist, a specialist in disorders like mine.

The vomiting could be almost anything, it is your body's response to something it doesn't like.

Go back the docs and seek better care, even more tests.

Hope this helps.

Keep posting, let us know how you get on.
 
That would be your hba1c, to see what your average blood glucose levels are.

That's how I would treat a low(hypo)! A biscuit, preferably plain, and a cuppa tea. No milk, no sugar!
This will slowly steadily raise your blood glucose levels back to normal.
If someone offers glucose in any way, shape or form. Say no!
Do not have glucose at all!
High carbs like spuds, bread, rice, pasta, pastries, are bad for you!
Read up on whet you can tolerate. You will get used to it.
For my tea I've just had half a roast chicken, that's it!
 
Hi,

Yes, I agree that sounds hypo, but not necessarily reactive hypo.

But @BeccaArchie you have mentioned these symptoms come along after eating, but how soon after? 10 mins? 2 hrs? And is there a consistent pattern?

Also, what are you eating?

We obviously can't diagnose anything on here, and it looks like your doc is on the case, but my gut reaction is to discourage anyone with hypo like symptoms such as you are describing from just self medicating with carby snacks.

A small carby snack is ok as a quick damage-control treatment, but you want to follow that up with some nice slow release meat, cheese, veggies - a proper meal, with some mayo or butter on the veg. This type of meal digests slowly, drip feeding glucose into the bloodstream. This means you are far less likely to drop sharply and plunge into another low.

You may find that a very low carb ketogenic lifestyle would help tremendously, but PLEASE don't make big dietary changes until AFTER you have a clear diagnosis. It would be a great pity if any changes you made masked the symptoms and prevented you getting the diagnosis you clearly need!

Hope that helps.

Please let us know how you get on?
 
Thankyou, I've been reading for what feels like hours all different pages and information about hypo related pages you have so kindly mentioned.

In regards too my personal diet I was/still am, following slimming world for past few years. My meals are usually very healthy, the consist of at least 2/3's of my plate being full of vegetables and the rest a 'main' which could be anything from meats, to spag bolognaise, chilli etc etc.
The diet has no calorie, or weight restrictions with regards to its food. There is no limit on the amount of potatoes, or fruit, yoghurts, anything unlike any other diet.

I don't tend to have a pattern as such, I vomit a lot quicker after more 'stodgy' foods such as bread, jacket potatoes, homemade wedges, But it can always be less than an hour after eating anything I bring it back up. I drink a huge amount of fluids usually no added sugar dilute juice, or diet fizzy drinks but do find myself always having a dry mouth.

Can hypos always tend to make you sleepy?
..My doctor was reluctant to discuss this initially and questioned my mental health. With no history of psychological issues, and my mental health being in a pretty good place as standard. I always need to sleep after most meals, regardless of a tiny portion or huge portion. I can feel tired, and then HAVE to lie down where I will deep sleep for several hours. xx
 
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