Vitamin K

derry60 · Jul 31, 2017

Hi All,

I have been eating quite a lot of cauliflower replacing potatoes as on a low Carb diet. This evening after eating cauliflower I started to feel a little sick...I looked up to see if this can happen if eating too much of it. Apparently, cauliflower has quite a high dose of Vitamin K as along with other vegs such as Greens, kale etc. It was advised that if people are on blood thinning meds,not to eat to much of it,as it can affect the workings of the medication. I take Asprin, for my heart, and wondered if anybody else had concerns with this, and people also on Warfarin? Here is a list of veg with Vitamin K
Item Amount Vitamin K
Artichoke 1 medium
(about 4 1/2 oz.) 18.9 mcg Vitamin K
Asparagus 4 oz. 27.9 mcg Vitamin K
Green beans 4 oz. 21.5 mcg Vitamin K
Lima beans 4 oz. 4.4 mcg Vitamin K
Beets 4 oz. 0.1 mcg Vitamin K
Broccoli, chopped 4 oz. 46.2 mcg Vitamin K
Brussels sprouts 4 oz. 77.9 mcg Vitamin K
Cabbage, shredded 1/2 cup 26.6 mcg Vitamin K
Carrot 4 oz. 14.9 mcg Vitamin K
Cauliflower 4 oz. 17.5 mcg Vitamin K
Celery 2 large ribs 37.5 mcg Vitamin K
Swiss chard 4 oz. 937.9 mcg Vitamin K
Chives 1 Tablespoon chopped 6.4 mcg Vitamin K
Collard greens 4 oz. 493.9 mcg Vitamin K
Cilantro 1 Tablespoon 3 mcg Vitamin K
Corn, yellow or white 4 oz. 0.3mcg Vitamin K
Cucumber (with peel) 1/2 cup slices 8.5 mcg Vitamin K
Eggplant 4 oz. 4 mcg Vitamin K
Endive 1/2 cup chopped 57.8 Vitamin K
Kale 4 oz. 796.4 mcg Vitamin K
Leek 4 oz. 53.1 mcg Vitamin K
Bibb lettuce 1 cup shredded 56.3 mcg Vitamin K
Red leaf lettuce 1 cup shredded 39.3 mcg Vitamin K
Iceberg lettuce 1 cup shredded 17.4 mcg Vitamin K
Romaine lettuce 1 cup shredded 48.2 mcg Vitamin K
Mustard greens 1 cup chopped 144.2 mcg Vitamin K
Shiitake mushrooms 4 oz. 0 mcg Vitamin K
Button (white) mushrooms 4 oz. 0 mcg Vitamin K
Okra 4 oz. 35.4 mcg Vitamin K
Green onion 1/2 cup, chopped 103.5 mcg Vitamin K
White or yellow onion 1/2 cup, chopped 0.3 mcg Vitamin K
Parsley 1 Tablespoon 62.3 mcg Vitamin K
Parsnip 4 oz. 25.4 mcg Vitamin K
Green pepper 1/2 cup, chopped 5.5 mcg Vitamin K
Potato 4 oz. 2.3 mcg Vitamin K
Radish 1/2 cup slices 0.8 mcg Vitamin K
Spinach 4 oz. 545.7 mcg Vitamin K
Yellow squash 4 oz. 3.6 mcg Vitamin K
Acorn squash 4 oz. 0 mcg Vitamin K
Sweet potato 4 oz. 2 mcg Vitamin K
Tomato 1 cup chopped 14.2 mcg Vitamin K
Turnip 4 oz. 0.1 mcg Vitamin K
Turnip greens 4 oz. 283.6 mcg Vitamin K
Watercress 1 cup chopped 85 mcg Vitamin K
Zuc I think that people who especially on Warfarin should watch their intake. Not sure about Asprin users but will research it.

pleinster · Jul 31, 2017

I only know that it can be (ie. potentially) harmful to kidney dialysis patients...and that it can thin the blood so that maybe it might make the effect of thinning agents more powerful and so make natural clotting of the blood more difficult. That said, it is supposedly very helpful in preventing heart disease and is very important for strengthening bone. I think the important thing is to eat it in moderation or at least not to have it all the time if you are on drugs like warfarin...and to avoid it more seriously if on dialysis. I would, however, ask your own doctor for an opinion in direct relation to your own individual circumstances.

JohnEGreen · Jul 31, 2017

Same goes for cranberries and cranberry juice.

Bluetit1802 · Jul 31, 2017

This is what the NHS has to say about it.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vitamins-minerals/Pages/Vitamin-K.aspx

It seems that rather than thinning the blood, it helps it to clot. If this is the case, it could stop blood thinning medicines from doing their job.

Brunneria · Jul 31, 2017

Also worth noting that there are 3 forms of Vit K.

It is K1 that works on blood clotting.
I think K2 is usually low in the majority of the Western population, and would be very near impossible to have to excess. And it is K2 that is very useful to help protect the heart and with the efficient use of Vitamin D, either from sunlight or from food with the knock on effect of protecting from osteoporosis.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/03/24/vitamin-k-part-two.aspx

In my (limited) experience, doctors tend not to know that there is more than one version of K.

Kristin251 · Jul 31, 2017

Bluetit1802 said:
This is what the NHS has to say about it.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vitamins-minerals/Pages/Vitamin-K.aspx

It seems that rather than thinning the blood, it helps it to clot. If this is the case, it could stop blood thinning medicines from doing their job.

Not picking on you but that doesn't sound right ( I didn't read the link)
People on blood thinners aren't supposed to eat foods high in K as it will thin their blood too much. And when prone to heart attacks or strokes, the very reason they're put on thinners, is to stop them from clotting and throwing an embolism which would cause them a heart attack or stroke.

Don't take my word as gospel, this is just what I learned as an emergency medical tech. But I do have to say the ambulance was never called for an overdose of K HAHA.

Bluetit1802 · Jul 31, 2017

Kristin251 said:
Not picking on you but that doesn't sound right ( I didn't read the link)
People on blood thinners aren't supposed to eat foods high in K as it will thin their blood too much. And when prone to heart attacks or strokes, the very reason they're put on thinners, is to stop them from clotting and throwing an embolism which would cause them a heart attack or stroke.

Don't take my word as gospel, this is just what I learned as an emergency medical tech. But I do have to say the ambulance was never called for an overdose of K HAHA.

I'm not picking on you, either but Vit K helps to clot the blood, so there is little point in taking something that thins the blood and something that clots it. This is why there is a contraindication. Too much Vit K will stop the thinners from working as it works against them.

Tons about it on Doctor Google!

Kristin251 · Jul 31, 2017

Bluetit1802 said:
I'm not picking on you, either but Vit K helps to clot the blood, so there is little point in taking something that thins the blood and something that clots it. This is why there is a contraindication. Too much Vit K will stop the thinners from working as it works against them.

That makes sense as well. Just not what I learned.

HA! You know I had to do a little research. YOU WIN SMARTY!!!

good info to know.

derry60 · Jul 31, 2017

Hmm think cauliflower has moderate vitamin K in,but think that people on blood thinners sh

derry60 · Jul 31, 2017

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derry60 · Jul 31, 2017

Thank you all for your replies. I may ask my doctor as there seem's to be Vitamin K in quite a lot of veg,and the low carb diet calls for eating mainly veg, and quite a lot of it. I am not on Warfarin but Asprin. I would not be concerned ordinarily but this diet as I say causes for a lot of veg with vitamin K in.

derry60 · Jul 31, 2017

Found this information. https://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/low-vitamin-k-foods-for-a-coumadin-warfarin-diet.php

Bluetit1802 · Jul 31, 2017

derry60 said:
Found this information. https://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/low-vitamin-k-foods-for-a-coumadin-warfarin-diet.php

That looks like an excellent guide for you.

derry60 · Jul 31, 2017

Bluetit1802 said:
That looks like an excellent guide for you.

Well I have just read that vitamin K does not affect Asprin users,great for me,but people who are on Warfarin have to watch how much they eat.

JohnEGreen · Jul 31, 2017

To be honest I also take aspirin for similar reasons and I have eaten at one time or another just about every item on your list my doctor at no time has mentioned any problem with foods containing Vitamin K,

NoCrbs4Me · Jul 31, 2017

Personally, I avoid all fruit/veg as I don't think they are good for one's health.

Freema · Jul 31, 2017

vitamin K1 helps blood coagulate.... which mean it helps blood clott... not the other way around.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13217963-100-science-how-vitamin-k-makes-blood-clot/

pleinster · Aug 1, 2017

I stand corrected...well, I'm sitting down actually...evidently vitamin K doesn't thin or thicken blood but can work against blood thinning meds used to prevent clotting.

Kristin251 · Aug 1, 2017

NoCrbs4Me said:
Personally, I avoid all fruit/veg as I don't think they are good for one's health.

Seriously. Beyond avocado ( I know you dont eat it ) I could argue your point as well. I love veggies but I don't feel well on them.
Oops, I need a few nuts too. Just protein and I'm starving.

NoCrbs4Me · Aug 1, 2017

Kristin251 said:
Seriously. Beyond avocado ( I know you dont eat it ) I could argue your point as well. I love veggies but I don't feel well on them.
Oops, I need a few nuts too. Just protein and I'm starving.

Ribeye steaks keep me satisfied, thanks to the good fat in them.

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