Water in porridge

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ummmm, not sure what to put here. Maybe I should put the accident that broke my back & changed my life so radically, but without that accident, my wife & I wouldn't have the 2 wonderful children, & nothing is worth losing them for.
I've recently started having porridge made with water, rather than milk. I was wondering, does the water I use to make the porridge count towards my fluid intake for the day?
 

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Yes. Hello, by the way. But it's not that much, surely?
 

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ummmm, not sure what to put here. Maybe I should put the accident that broke my back & changed my life so radically, but without that accident, my wife & I wouldn't have the 2 wonderful children, & nothing is worth losing them for.
Yes. Hello, by the way. But it's not that much, surely?

Hi DeejayR
I use just under a pint, so it does seem a lot. Every bit helps.
Cheers
 

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Hi DeejayR
I use just under a pint, so it does seem a lot. Every bit helps.
Cheers

What are you targeting for your fluid intake?

Personally, I would disregard water added to oats, as by-and-large it will be absorbed by the dry oats. Few people actually drink enough, even of they feel they do.
 

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ummmm, not sure what to put here. Maybe I should put the accident that broke my back & changed my life so radically, but without that accident, my wife & I wouldn't have the 2 wonderful children, & nothing is worth losing them for.
What are you targeting for your fluid intake?

Personally, I would disregard water added to oats, as by-and-large it will be absorbed by the dry oats. Few people actually drink enough, even of they feel they do.

To be honest, I'm not measuring.fluids atm. I've not been long diagnosed, so I'm trying to get my head round it all. I have switched from porridge made with semi skimmed milk to making it with water, & I just wondered if the water I used would be counted as part of my daily fluid intake.
 

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I would have thought the volume of water replacing the volume of milk would be close to the same, milk having a density only slightly greater than water, that it would make no difference to your fluid intake calculation.
To use a pint would suggest it is a serious bowl of oats...... carbs....
 

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I would have thought the volume of water replacing the volume of milk would be close to the same, milk having a density only slightly greater than water, that it would make no difference to your fluid intake calculation.
To use a pint would suggest it is a serious bowl of oats...... carbs....

Exactly what I thought! How much oats are you using @Skydogg ?
 
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Exactly what I thought! How much oats are you using?
It's been a while since I did oats in the morning, moved over to yogurt and nuts.... but when I did it was 30 g oats and 200 g semi-skimmed.

edited:
you were probably not asking me.... but the OP... bit slow today....
 
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pre-eating to meter I used to have porridge made with water, I found that putting the water on the oats the night before and leaving it to soak overnight before heating it up in the morning resulted in a creamier tasting porridge that didn't take as long to cook compared to non-soaked.

After I got my meter, and had a scare by my BG rise caused by my porridge I changed to flax seed.
 

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That's a seriously large bowl of porridge and a seriously high carb loading in one sitting - there are many people here who eat that amount over all their meals for 2 days. If you want to control your diabetes by diet alone, this is one area you could make significant improvements. Maybe a small portion with a couple of scrambled eggs instead? Or ditch the porridge completely and have a couple of high meat content sausages and some eggs - that'd really knock some digits off your blood glucose numbers.
 
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ummmm, not sure what to put here. Maybe I should put the accident that broke my back & changed my life so radically, but without that accident, my wife & I wouldn't have the 2 wonderful children, & nothing is worth losing them for.
That's a seriously large bowl of porridge and a seriously high carb loading in one sitting - there are many people here who eat that amount over all their meals for 2 days. If you want to control your diabetes by diet alone, this is one area you could make significant improvements. Maybe a small portion with a couple of scrambled eggs instead? Or ditch the porridge completely and have a couple of high meat content sausages and some eggs - that'd really knock some digits off your blood glucose numbers.
As I say, I'm right at the start of this thing. Trying to get my head round all the numbers. I started a new diet regime a week before finding out I have diabetes, so I was trying to sort that. The porridge works for the diet, but seemingly not for the BG & GI stuff. I still haven't seen a specialist yet. I'm trying to book a spot on the DESMOND scheme, where I've been told I'll get a lot of information. I wasn't even told to get a monitor, so I have sent away for one. I'm waiting on it's delivery. As I say, I'm VERY new to this. Thanks for your input by the way. There do seem to be a lot of very caring people on here.
 

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ummmm, not sure what to put here. Maybe I should put the accident that broke my back & changed my life so radically, but without that accident, my wife & I wouldn't have the 2 wonderful children, & nothing is worth losing them for.
As I say, I'm right at the start of this thing. Trying to get my head round all the numbers. I started a new diet regime a week before finding out I have diabetes, so I was trying to sort that. The porridge works for the diet, but seemingly not for the BG & GI stuff. I still haven't seen a specialist yet. I'm trying to book a spot on the DESMOND scheme, where I've been told I'll get a lot of information. I wasn't even told to get a monitor, so I have sent away for one. I'm waiting on it's delivery. As I say, I'm VERY new to this. Thanks for your input by the way. There do seem to be a lot of very caring people on here.
Just been informed that, due to waiting lists, it's likely to be September before I can get on the DESMOND course.
 

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September is a long wait...

Once your meter arrives you will be able to map out exactly what foods are good and bad for your blood glucose, and by the time you go to that course you will be able to compare their standard advice with how your body works.

Sadly, my meter tells me that porridge shoots my blood glucose too high. :(
 
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DeejayR

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I have 50g of wholegrain oats twice a week with coconut oil, butter and a lot of other stuff which slows the BS conversion rate down. Where people are eating a lot of carbs the forum often advises cutting down gradually to avoid carb flu (feeling rough for a few days).
I'm still looking for an authorised answer to your original question, which in so many words is when is a drink not a drink? Is the water in a cucumber actually water or something else?
 

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The water in food must contribute to overall fluid intake, but I wouldn't count it personally if I had a fluid target, as my husband does with knackered kidneys. In the past when looking after poorly pets and children you do add moisture to food to try and rehydrate them if they won't drink.

I think you'd get more benefit in simply having a glass of water whilst you're stirring your porridge.

I reduced my carbs gradually and am still doing so, if only for psychological reasons, it's easier and more practical to make smaller adjustments. But I was already moderate carbing having been diabetic for a long time, so I was already used to not eating certain food groups, so I only honed what I was already doing. It's a much bigger step when newly diagnosed - but everything helps, so take it one step at a time.
 
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As I say, I'm right at the start of this thing. Trying to get my head round all the numbers. I started a new diet regime a week before finding out I have diabetes, so I was trying to sort that. The porridge works for the diet, but seemingly not for the BG & GI stuff. I still haven't seen a specialist yet. I'm trying to book a spot on the DESMOND scheme, where I've been told I'll get a lot of information. I wasn't even told to get a monitor, so I have sent away for one. I'm waiting on it's delivery. As I say, I'm VERY new to this. Thanks for your input by the way. There do seem to be a lot of very caring people on here.

Until January this year I had porridge for breakfast most days, I'd always been told by diabetic nurses that it was the best breakfast for diabetes, and I ended up with sky high levels.
I hadn't tested my BG for a long time, but I started testing in january, and the first day I tested before and after my porridge I was shocked at how high the numbers had gone, and then I read on here about high carbs and how they are the problem. That was the last time I ate porridge, never touched it since, and yes i do miss it, but I'd miss my feet more.
Eggs, bacon, (97% meat) sausage, tomatoes, mushrooms, great low carb breakfast, but skip the bread/toast ;)
 
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