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Weight what -ers????

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XT Malc

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Birmingham
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
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Diet only
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Have had my first two "pre diabetic "classes run by ww as part of nhs programme. What a complete waste of time. All they did was weigh me , try to sell me crisps, choccy, diaries and tell me to eat PLENTY OF CARBS. I won't be going back again. So far i have lost a stone and a half and am not hungry at all and have my next check up with nurse in March , and all I have done is cut out as much carby stuff as possible.
 
Neither WW or SW, or any of the others, are in any way qualified to advise diabetics what to eat.
 
Those weight loss classes are based on calorie counting thus they will always be high carb. They are also run by companies selling processed food which is inevitably going to be cheap and processed carby rubbish.
Whilst the NHS believes in 'energy balance/cico' and the toxicity of fat in general they will continue to treat type 2 as a problem that can be solved via weight loss .
Go to any of those meetings and you will see people who've ridden the weight loss rodeo many times before and thus help the business model by being return customers.
 
I doubt a butcher or a greengrocer would be acceptable to run these courses,

But I reckon they'd get better results AND make money selling their own REAL FOODS Products.

Really can't believe in this day and age with all we know on here, that a Nations health is being sold off to the highest bidders, so they can make a buck or two off our misery... Nothing short of scandalous .
 
I went to SW and lost 12% of my bodyweight....But I only went for the weigh in as the sessions were free from my GP. I followed LCHF throughout and didn't buy any of their products.
 
Jim Lahey said:
Or anyone?
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a few years back i might have scoffed at that.

but being on here and being forced, as it where to read and listen more,
i would agree that the simplicity, of eat less, move more and eat our products essentially
has baked in failure IF one doesn't amend the FOOD TYPES

and as far as i can see WW et al, don't..well not in a good way.

I think i have come to see this Host body of mine
as a cunning, devious opponent when i WANT it to do something , it will RESIST, to the Nth degree

YET..when it comes to defending it's Young..(US in essence) it;s ferocious in keeping us alive, no matter the cost.

so starvation..it does it's best to keep us alive.
come feast..it does it's best to make us stock up, while things are good,
just in case starvation is just around the corner again..

Baked in Failure ..IF we don't amend the food types as well.

as testified by way too many who suffer the consequences of yo-yoing after dieting.. for many years in some cases.

Kind of the best of Business models..given them what they want NOW.

Knowing it will fail over time and they'll be back..as Arnie says..
 
This was my post on another similar thread:
 
This is the kind of thing I get all the time from WW – how is this meant to be of benefit to anyone on this forum?
I can hardly believe decision makers in the NHS have actually taken a look at what WW is about... Utter nonsense.
 
All Calories Are Equal
We know some calories are more equal than others
 
Sorry @Barb McD .
I have started tending to set my privacy levels on sites to zero if possible...(surprising how many companies are on some lists)
Sadly this one won't let me see if I don't accept, many others do.

Maybe I'll change my mind and add the cookies later

Cheers for posting anyway.
 
His history includes a quotation from the “great man” himself saying that it should never be applied as a diagnostic tool for defining health status. ‍
 
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