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<blockquote data-quote="Pipp" data-source="post: 559454" data-attributes="member: 100904"><p>Glad you have found something that works for you.</p><p>Yes I am sure things have changed with slimming groups in the last 20 years. I think my main bone of contention was that I followed what was then called the SW green plan, as this was similar to the advice given by dieticians to help me lose weight. I followed this to the letter, yet after several tries at this, still started to gain weight, but felt demoralised and often humiliated by the approach of the class leader. (Which was similar to your comment 'you obviously were not sticking to the rules'). I was, and it did not work. The green plan which advocated unlimited consumption of pasta, rice carb based, only served to increase my weight. I believe this was also a contributory factor in development of my T2 diabetes, as I had obviously been insulin resistant without knowing. The red plan suggested unlimited red meat and processed meat. One of the recipes was for quiche which used corned beef instead of pastry for the base. Still makes me gag now at the thought.</p><p></p><p>I hope that things are now different some 20 years later, and concede that my comments were based on experience from long ago. I will comment only comment briefly on the branded WW food. Criticism of these is well documented elsewhere, but they are highly processed foods, often brainwashing vulnerable people into believing they are healthier than other brands. I still contend that these organisations are happy to make big profits out of the revolving door of the weight loss weight gain majority. Of course there will be some who achieve success with the slimming clubs. I am truly pleased for them. I would be interested in the ratio of successful diets to unsuccessful dieters.</p><p></p><p>I admire your defence of a method that is clearly suitable for you. People do need to look at all arguments before making up their own mind. As for your comment in defence of SW which almost seemed like a personal attack, so reminiscent of my humiliating experience of SW. 'YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN' I did, I followed the advice of a dietician and SW to base my diet mainly on the 'good carbs' wholemeal pasta, brown rice etc. the something that happened was I gained weight and T2 diabetes. I have since done something else, found my own way to lose weight, and regain control of my blood glucose. Without a group.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pipp, post: 559454, member: 100904"] Glad you have found something that works for you. Yes I am sure things have changed with slimming groups in the last 20 years. I think my main bone of contention was that I followed what was then called the SW green plan, as this was similar to the advice given by dieticians to help me lose weight. I followed this to the letter, yet after several tries at this, still started to gain weight, but felt demoralised and often humiliated by the approach of the class leader. (Which was similar to your comment 'you obviously were not sticking to the rules'). I was, and it did not work. The green plan which advocated unlimited consumption of pasta, rice carb based, only served to increase my weight. I believe this was also a contributory factor in development of my T2 diabetes, as I had obviously been insulin resistant without knowing. The red plan suggested unlimited red meat and processed meat. One of the recipes was for quiche which used corned beef instead of pastry for the base. Still makes me gag now at the thought. I hope that things are now different some 20 years later, and concede that my comments were based on experience from long ago. I will comment only comment briefly on the branded WW food. Criticism of these is well documented elsewhere, but they are highly processed foods, often brainwashing vulnerable people into believing they are healthier than other brands. I still contend that these organisations are happy to make big profits out of the revolving door of the weight loss weight gain majority. Of course there will be some who achieve success with the slimming clubs. I am truly pleased for them. I would be interested in the ratio of successful diets to unsuccessful dieters. I admire your defence of a method that is clearly suitable for you. People do need to look at all arguments before making up their own mind. As for your comment in defence of SW which almost seemed like a personal attack, so reminiscent of my humiliating experience of SW. 'YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN' I did, I followed the advice of a dietician and SW to base my diet mainly on the 'good carbs' wholemeal pasta, brown rice etc. the something that happened was I gained weight and T2 diabetes. I have since done something else, found my own way to lose weight, and regain control of my blood glucose. Without a group. [/QUOTE]
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