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<blockquote data-quote="EllieM" data-source="post: 2586578" data-attributes="member: 372717"><p>To be honest [USER=565464]@plantae[/USER], I'm not quite sure what you are trying to achieve here? (Though it is an interesting topic)</p><p></p><p>Hypo awareness is a big deal because, as you know all to well, if you go too low you can go unconscious, and it can also happen quite fast.</p><p></p><p>Highs tend not to lead to hospitalisation, or at least not fast, so if you are keeping track of your bg by glucometer and/or cgm you'd be pretty unlikely to go into DKA because it takes hours rather than minutes for it to take effect. I've never had a DKA in 53 years (was diagnosed early because my mother acted on my early symptoms of thirst because she almost died at her T1 diagnosis).</p><p></p><p>So the hyper symptoms are relevant to folk who haven't been diagnosed diabetic and don't have any access to blood testing equipment, but if it's for you yourself then you'd hopefully realise you were high long before you got any extreme symptoms.</p><p></p><p>I suspect that symptoms of thirst , tiredness, UTIs etc are diabetic type independent, as they are caused by the high blood sugar, whereas symptoms like nauseas and bad breath may be more associated with high blood sugar and ketosis and lack of insulin? Those would be more likely in a T1/LADA/T3C than a T2. (Not saying T2s don't get DKA, but it's rarer for them).</p><p></p><p>However, I used to have a T1 friend who claimed he could feel symptoms when his bg went over 8 - his bg control was insanely good, and this was in the days of glucometers but not cgms. So awareness of mild hypers is possible for some people (though I've never really noticed it unless I'm well into the teens)</p><p></p><p>But life/hospital threatening highs are DKAs, and I expect you would notice these on your cgm or glucometer long before you noticed the symptoms.</p><p></p><p>Good luck with getting your DN to let you start adjusting your doses.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EllieM, post: 2586578, member: 372717"] To be honest [USER=565464]@plantae[/USER], I'm not quite sure what you are trying to achieve here? (Though it is an interesting topic) Hypo awareness is a big deal because, as you know all to well, if you go too low you can go unconscious, and it can also happen quite fast. Highs tend not to lead to hospitalisation, or at least not fast, so if you are keeping track of your bg by glucometer and/or cgm you'd be pretty unlikely to go into DKA because it takes hours rather than minutes for it to take effect. I've never had a DKA in 53 years (was diagnosed early because my mother acted on my early symptoms of thirst because she almost died at her T1 diagnosis). So the hyper symptoms are relevant to folk who haven't been diagnosed diabetic and don't have any access to blood testing equipment, but if it's for you yourself then you'd hopefully realise you were high long before you got any extreme symptoms. I suspect that symptoms of thirst , tiredness, UTIs etc are diabetic type independent, as they are caused by the high blood sugar, whereas symptoms like nauseas and bad breath may be more associated with high blood sugar and ketosis and lack of insulin? Those would be more likely in a T1/LADA/T3C than a T2. (Not saying T2s don't get DKA, but it's rarer for them). However, I used to have a T1 friend who claimed he could feel symptoms when his bg went over 8 - his bg control was insanely good, and this was in the days of glucometers but not cgms. So awareness of mild hypers is possible for some people (though I've never really noticed it unless I'm well into the teens) But life/hospital threatening highs are DKAs, and I expect you would notice these on your cgm or glucometer long before you noticed the symptoms. Good luck with getting your DN to let you start adjusting your doses. [/QUOTE]
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