Diabetesdave1
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Only that person can tell you how it affects him/her. We are all different. Some claim that prevention is better than cure but some people have other medical conditions which for e.g need Oats in their diet but oats a make SOME diabetics spike their bgs levels. You have to find what works best for......you.I have been diagnosed with diabetes 2 and I am at the moment trying to control naturally by diet .
A person I know has I had it ten years and eats what they like and just take medicine what are the disadvantages to this
Hugely difficult. You need an endocrologist to be of similiar knowledge to your needs.I am on holiday in Vietnam at the moment and I have to experiment and see what works over here a lot of the time they do not know what I am talking about which makes it difficult
Basically, there are 2 parts to the T2D issue
1) Chronically high insulin levels
2) Chronically high fasting glucose, and post meal glucose spikes.
Long term medication may help to manage glucose level and blunt the spikes a little, but they hardly ever normalize it. Timing medication to match the glucose level per meal is near impossible because of the myriads of factors affecting glucose, although easier with low carb. Hence the "targets" are always much higher than normal metabolically healthy individuals.
So over the years, with no dietary/lifestyle changes, we will experience the long term effects
1) Insulin toxicity
2) Glucose toxicity
3) Side effects of medication.
That is why T2D is almost universally chronic and progressive.
Not at all, but I think the comparison being made in this post was just meds and no lifestyle changes made or even attempted verses making those changes, (hopefully without meds but almost certainly with less of them)Worth pointing out that not everyone on meds inhale carbs by the shed load. There are some who even with very low carb still have to take some form of medication - there is no shame in needing help from medication if you are doing everything possible in your lifestyle and still not getting good numbers.
What is your averaging BG numbers?@ickihun Sorry to bother you, but can I clarify something - by "very low calorie with low carbs" do you mean you need to do both together to manage your blood glucose?
I've only been diagnosed since early April, and my GP has given me until July to try and manage with just diet and exercise before moving on to medication. So far I can only seem to keep my glucose range in the 4's and 5's if I'm both very strict with carbs AND eat as little as possible, as infrequently as possible. I'm currently on one meal a day coming in under 900 calories, and even then my fasting blood glucose the next morning has started creeping back up into the 6's. I got an 8.8 yesterday morning out of nowhere.
I'm still struggling a lot with fatigue - I'd sleep all day if I could - and I don't know whether it's because I'm not eating enough or because my blood glucose levels are still averaging too high.
That makes sense given that all diabetes medications have to do to gain a license is demonstrate a reduction in blood glucose. Reducing blood glucose with meds treats your symptom but not the underlying insulin resistance. This is why in many studies, people treated intensively with meds still got diabetic complications. The newer drugs (sgltt2 inhibitors) which cause you to pee out the glucose, are reckoned to have better outcomes for complications and allow more weight loss, but as with all meds they have undesirable side effects.I thought there must be some kind of trade off ,thanks for the answer I know which way I am going or at least try.
It sounds like you are not eating enough and not getting enough fuel to avoid tiredness, maybe the stress of not seeing faster results is also having negative effects on readings too. Extended time with very low calories can slow metabolism thus being counterproductive. I’d really think hard about adding some fats into the meal or having a second zero carb meal. This won’t mess you blood sugar up but will give you more energy. Your bmi as I recall really wasn’t too bad and should come into line given a little time.@ickihun Sorry to bother you, but can I clarify something - by "very low calorie with low carbs" do you mean you need to do both together to manage your blood glucose?
I've only been diagnosed since early April, and my GP has given me until July to try and manage with just diet and exercise before moving on to medication. So far I can only seem to keep my glucose range in the 4's and 5's if I'm both very strict with carbs AND eat as little as possible, as infrequently as possible. I'm currently on one meal a day coming in under 900 calories, and even then my fasting blood glucose the next morning has started creeping back up into the 6's. I got an 8.8 yesterday morning out of nowhere.
I'm still struggling a lot with fatigue - I'd sleep all day if I could - and I don't know whether it's because I'm not eating enough or because my blood glucose levels are still averaging too high.
I have been diagnosed with diabetes 2 and I am at the moment trying to control naturally by diet .
A person I know has I had it ten years and eats what they like and just take medicine what are the disadvantages to this
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