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hanadr

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I've just had y eyes photoed and been picked up from Health Centre by daughter who told me hat doctors had warned her off low carb diets as dangerous. I googled it and found the following. I'd like the opinions of some of you guys. It looks like a scare monger to me
http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/advisory.html
 
PCRM (Physician Committee for Responsible Medicine) was formed, as far as I can see, by Neal Barnard. Dr. Barnard is a proponent of a vegetarian diet so it is likely that he would be anti an Atkins diet.

Tubs.
 
That's quite a read!!I notice that they still don't differentiate between eating fats with lots of carbs and eating fats with minimal carbs.Also it is well known that cholesterol levels initially rise when first on a low carb diet so the info that it raises cholesterol is flawed as cholesterol drops after a while.
 
Something I spotted was the statement that low-carb diets have never been properly researched, on the basis that the longest controlled research study is only 12 months. But I would like to know has there ever been a study of any length done into high carb diets? As far as I can see there has never been one. I am sure the carb reduction critics would claim there doesn't need to be a study because people have been eating a high carb diet for decades. But of course people were eating a low carb diet for millennia before the craze for high carb spread across the Atlantic in the 60s and 70s, fuelled on the fat profits of the bread, cake and cereal manufacturers.

I have a strong suspicion that it would be a real eye-opener to find just where PCRM gets its funding from!
 
Conspiracy theorists abound that PCRM and PETA have a close relationship.

Tubs.
 
"fish produces a bigger insulin release than popcorn"

That settles it for me, hanadr! :D

Fair play to them though, some parts aren't as tenuous as others.
 
Dennis

The Neilson et al study in Sweden had published a 44 month follow up and the people on low carb are still doing well
 
timo
don't you like fish?
 
That may have been sarcasm, Hana. Sorry :oops: .

I actually eat quite a lot of fish, mackerel and salmon in particular.

No fish is safe while I'm around! :D
 
PCRM is an offshoot of PETA

Dennis said:
Something I spotted was the statement that low-carb diets have never been properly researched, on the basis that the longest controlled research study is only 12 months. But I would like to know has there ever been a study of any length done into high carb diets? As far as I can see there has never been one. I am sure the carb reduction critics would claim there doesn't need to be a study because people have been eating a high carb diet for decades. But of course people were eating a low carb diet for millennia before the craze for high carb spread across the Atlantic in the 60s and 70s, fuelled on the fat profits of the bread, cake and cereal manufacturers.

I have a strong suspicion that it would be a real eye-opener to find just where PCRM gets its funding from!

The ADA actually funded research by Gannon and Nuttall over five years ago. It's available from their site but you actually have to dig for it.

That gave them five years in which they could have done a long term follow-up but chose not to.

It's been pointed out that Ethics Committees probably would not permit a long term study of low carb. However they appear to have no problem championing a diet based on horse-apples which has had the effect of raising cardiovascular disease and obesity in the rest of the world to US levels rather than doing the opposite for which it was allegedly designed.
 
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