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Antje77 · Jun 19, 2024

Oh well, my career as a gully sucker was rather short lived.
They were very positive on my enthousiasm, effort and work ethics, also on picking up the details of the job quickly, but they felt I wouldn't be able to keep it up and increase speed.
They may have been right, they may have been wrong. Yes, I was struggling, but I also think that if I kept it up out of stubbornness, my condition would have improved a lot in a short time.
All my colleagues have worked there for 30 years or more, they may have forgotten how things are when you need to learn a new trick and getting used to a new physical job. I wish them good luck finding someone who does better than I did on their second day, they may find someone or they may not.

Being female may have played an unconscious part as well (not sure, I might have been the first ever on that particular department), and it was in a part of Friesland where the Friesian language is very much the standard. I understand Friesian although I have to ask for repeats quite often, but I don't speak the language. Which may not have helped either.

They were very nice about it though, and I'm quite sure that if the job agency asks they will highly recommend me.
We'll see what the next adventure will be!

shelley262 · Jun 19, 2024

Antje77 said:
Oh well, my career as a gully sucker was rather short lived.
They were very positive on my enthousiasm, effort and work ethics, also on picking up the details of the job quickly, but they felt I wouldn't be able to keep it up and increase speed.
They may have been right, they may have been wrong. Yes, I was struggling, but I also think that if I kept it up out of stubbornness, my condition would have improved a lot in a short time.
All my colleagues have worked there for 30 years or more, they may have forgotten how things are when you need to learn a new trick and getting used to a new physical job. I wish them good luck finding someone who does better than I did on their second day, they may find someone or they may not.

Being female may have played an unconscious part as well (not sure, I might have been the first ever on that particular department), and it was in a part of Friesland where the Friesian language is very much the standard. I understand Friesian although I have to ask for repeats quite often, but I don't speak the language. Which may not have helped either.

They were very nice about it though, and I'm quite sure that if the job agency asks they will highly recommend me.
We'll see what the next adventure will be!

Let's hope that the job agency comes up with another better opportunity for you soon. You made such a great effort but sounds like there were a fair few barriers for you to be able to settle into the job. Give yourself a big pat on the back and a well done for trying out something different and taking on the challenge.

Antje77 · Jun 19, 2024

shelley262 said:
Let's hope that the job agency comes up with another better opportunity for you soon. You made such a great effort but sounds like there were a fair few barriers for you to be able to settle into the job. Give yourself a big pat on the back and a well done for trying out something different and taking on the challenge.

Exactly my plan!

It was very nice that my big strong builder neighbour who knows my physical capacities and limits because of doing some work together was indignant on my behalf when I told him. He thought they were stupid to decide I didn't do early on the second day if I didn't do a really bad job (which I didn't), because it takes time to get used to things like this. He has worked with countless new assistents as a builder, and they all struggle the first few weeks. I honestly suspect those old men have forgotten.

Pipp · Jun 19, 2024

Antje77 said:
Oh well, my career as a gully sucker was rather short lived.
They were very positive on my enthousiasm, effort and work ethics, also on picking up the details of the job quickly, but they felt I wouldn't be able to keep it up and increase speed.
They may have been right, they may have been wrong. Yes, I was struggling, but I also think that if I kept it up out of stubbornness, my condition would have improved a lot in a short time.
All my colleagues have worked there for 30 years or more, they may have forgotten how things are when you need to learn a new trick and getting used to a new physical job. I wish them good luck finding someone who does better than I did on their second day, they may find someone or they may not.

Being female may have played an unconscious part as well (not sure, I might have been the first ever on that particular department), and it was in a part of Friesland where the Friesian language is very much the standard. I understand Friesian although I have to ask for repeats quite often, but I don't speak the language. Which may not have helped either.

They were very nice about it though, and I'm quite sure that if the job agency asks they will highly recommend me.
We'll see what the next adventure will be!

If I could give an optimistic huggy winner like I would.
All power to you.
Next adventure will follow soon, I am sure.

Antje77 · Jun 19, 2024

Pipp said:
If I could give an optimistic huggy winner like I would.

You just did, didn't you?

And thanks, exactly my feelings!

Annb · Jun 19, 2024

Antje77 said:
Oh well, my career as a gully sucker was rather short lived.
They were very positive on my enthousiasm, effort and work ethics, also on picking up the details of the job quickly, but they felt I wouldn't be able to keep it up and increase speed.
They may have been right, they may have been wrong. Yes, I was struggling, but I also think that if I kept it up out of stubbornness, my condition would have improved a lot in a short time.
All my colleagues have worked there for 30 years or more, they may have forgotten how things are when you need to learn a new trick and getting used to a new physical job. I wish them good luck finding someone who does better than I did on their second day, they may find someone or they may not.

Being female may have played an unconscious part as well (not sure, I might have been the first ever on that particular department), and it was in a part of Friesland where the Friesian language is very much the standard. I understand Friesian although I have to ask for repeats quite often, but I don't speak the language. Which may not have helped either.

They were very nice about it though, and I'm quite sure that if the job agency asks they will highly recommend me.
We'll see what the next adventure will be!

Silly men don't know what they're missing!

MrsA2 · Jun 19, 2024

Antje77 said:
Oh well, my career as a gully sucker was rather short lived.
They were very positive on my enthousiasm, effort and work ethics, also on picking up the details of the job quickly, but they felt I wouldn't be able to keep it up and increase speed.
They may have been right, they may have been wrong. Yes, I was struggling, but I also think that if I kept it up out of stubbornness, my condition would have improved a lot in a short time.
All my colleagues have worked there for 30 years or more, they may have forgotten how things are when you need to learn a new trick and getting used to a new physical job. I wish them good luck finding someone who does better than I did on their second day, they may find someone or they may not.

Being female may have played an unconscious part as well (not sure, I might have been the first ever on that particular department), and it was in a part of Friesland where the Friesian language is very much the standard. I understand Friesian although I have to ask for repeats quite often, but I don't speak the language. Which may not have helped either.

They were very nice about it though, and I'm quite sure that if the job agency asks they will highly recommend me.
We'll see what the next adventure will be!

You are capable of so much more than gully sucking. Their loss, not yours xx

MrsA2 · Jun 19, 2024

MommaE said:
Have you tried myfitnesspal for logging your food? I find it useful and relatively straight forward to use.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have a look. Carb manager has remembered all my foods from 3 years ago! So not as much to do as I thought

Antje77 · Jun 20, 2024

MrsA2 said:
You are capable of so much more than gully sucking. Their loss, not yours xx

I'm completely open to suggestions! I'm 47 and I still have no clue what I want to be when I grow up.

I don't like being stuck indoors, unless I'm working on some very interesting research or such, or maybe helping out people or animals.
I never finished school although I am aware I'm pretty smart.
I don't have any experience with regular work, having worked on sailing ships for a long time which is, well, different. I simply have no idea how this working or applying for a 'normal' job even works.
For the past ten years I've only worked the very occasional job (plus 4+ years of spending a lot of time as a volunteer mod on some obscure forum).
I know I feel better if whatever I do involves at least some physical work.
And no, the local zoo isn't hiring, they only want people with a relevant education to feed the penguins.

So despite my enthousiasm, I'm completely out of my depth here.

Pipp · Jun 20, 2024

Antje77 said:
I'm completely open to suggestions! I'm 47 and I still have no clue what I want to be when I grow up.

I don't like being stuck indoors, unless I'm working on some very interesting research or such, or maybe helping out people or animals.
I never finished school although I am aware I'm pretty smart.
I don't have any experience with regular work, having worked on sailing ships for a long time which is, well, different. I simply have no idea how this working or applying for a 'normal' job even works.
For the past ten years I've only worked the very occasional job (plus 4+ years of spending a lot of time as a volunteer mod on some obscure forum).
I know I feel better if whatever I do involves at least some physical work.
And no, the local zoo isn't hiring, they only want people with a relevant education to feed the penguins.

So despite my enthousiasm, I'm completely out of my depth here.

Gardening, horticulture. Growing food crops. A course of study. Oh and yes, you are smart. Very smart. Don’t waste your talents.

AndBreathe · Jun 20, 2024

MrsA2 said:
His wife is taking that duty

Can't win 'em all......

AndBreathe · Jun 20, 2024

Antje77 said:
I'm completely open to suggestions! I'm 47 and I still have no clue what I want to be when I grow up.

I don't like being stuck indoors, unless I'm working on some very interesting research or such, or maybe helping out people or animals.
I never finished school although I am aware I'm pretty smart.
I don't have any experience with regular work, having worked on sailing ships for a long time which is, well, different. I simply have no idea how this working or applying for a 'normal' job even works.
For the past ten years I've only worked the very occasional job (plus 4+ years of spending a lot of time as a volunteer mod on some obscure forum).
I know I feel better if whatever I do involves at least some physical work.
And no, the local zoo isn't hiring, they only want people with a relevant education to feed the penguins.

So despite my enthousiasm, I'm completely out of my depth here.

Have you made approaches in the boatyard where you did some work earlier on this year?

My experience of boaties tells me they can be a bit closed minded, and want people who understand boats. I reckon you probably do.

In the meantime, have you considered trying to normalise a sort of working day into your activities? I know the more I do, the more I can do, but if I have a period of doing less (maybe because I don't need to), it can take me a while to get up to speed.

It's amazing how you can do that, just by starting to have a weekday getting up time that in some way aligns to a working day.
Even though we are a household of a lady who lunches and a gentleman who golfs, we are up at 05:30 at least 4 days a week (golf days), lie in until 06:00 the other two week days, but sleep a bit later at weekends (unless we just wake up). We even get a bit grumpy if we lie in beyond 07:00 at the weekend.

We do go to bed earlier than you guys. After midnight is no longer for us, unless we're glued to something on TV, like US Open Golf, last weekend.

Just a thought.

Not all things work out, but it was an adventure. A bit shorter than you planned.

Not many can add "Gully Sucking" to the skills on the CV. But, I'm unsure how transferrable that particular skill might be.

Annb · Jun 20, 2024

Antje77 said:
I'm completely open to suggestions! I'm 47 and I still have no clue what I want to be when I grow up.

I don't like being stuck indoors, unless I'm working on some very interesting research or such, or maybe helping out people or animals.
I never finished school although I am aware I'm pretty smart.
I don't have any experience with regular work, having worked on sailing ships for a long time which is, well, different. I simply have no idea how this working or applying for a 'normal' job even works.
For the past ten years I've only worked the very occasional job (plus 4+ years of spending a lot of time as a volunteer mod on some obscure forum).
I know I feel better if whatever I do involves at least some physical work.
And no, the local zoo isn't hiring, they only want people with a relevant education to feed the penguins.

So despite my enthousiasm, I'm completely out of my depth here.

You sound very much like Neil. Few qualifications on paper though he is skilled in all sorts of ways, except being able to settle on any job. He does a bit of this and a bit of that - some things he gets paid for, others he just does anyway because they interest him.

I don't suppose your local post office needs posties, do they? That's outdoors, although it can be pretty heavy sometimes.

It would be best if you could find something that you enjoy doing and see if there are any employment opportunities related to that. Something to do with boats? Looking after people's pets if they have to go away? Dog walking? Volunteering in an animal sanctuary? Painting and decorating? Care worker?

jpscloud · Jun 20, 2024

MrsA2 said:
Woke feeling a bit emotionally wobbly and tired, not unexpected after yesterday.
Went for a long walk with hubby. Had a small breakfast of yoghurt seeds and raspberries first but we walked further than intended so was very hungry when home again.
Lunch was cold meats, mayo and cold broccoli. 38g cheese and 6 brazils
Bit of moochy shop. Bought a dress £18.
D: cold chicken with hot broccoli, greens and half a carrot , olive oil. 4 brazils, 85% chocolate and cream.

I'm back to logging my food in carb Manager as I'm putting on weight and don't like it. Trying to get back to strict keto.
Remembering why I gave up on Carb manager, its so American and has even more foods in with the wrong values than before. "Cups" and "servings".
Will have to slowly build my own database of foods.
Weighing food too, in case it's portions that have increased.
Today I'm slightly over on protein, 40g carbs (but all from vegs I don't trust the figures on) and only 2/3 fats I was supposed to.

Interesting times ahead

I'm back to clinging on to the wagon today too! Good luck to both of us x I'm grateful for the company here, all of you here encouraging, supporting and not judging is priceless.

jpscloud · Jun 20, 2024

Antje77 said:
Oh well, my career as a gully sucker was rather short lived.
They were very positive on my enthousiasm, effort and work ethics, also on picking up the details of the job quickly, but they felt I wouldn't be able to keep it up and increase speed.
They may have been right, they may have been wrong. Yes, I was struggling, but I also think that if I kept it up out of stubbornness, my condition would have improved a lot in a short time.
All my colleagues have worked there for 30 years or more, they may have forgotten how things are when you need to learn a new trick and getting used to a new physical job. I wish them good luck finding someone who does better than I did on their second day, they may find someone or they may not.

Being female may have played an unconscious part as well (not sure, I might have been the first ever on that particular department), and it was in a part of Friesland where the Friesian language is very much the standard. I understand Friesian although I have to ask for repeats quite often, but I don't speak the language. Which may not have helped either.

They were very nice about it though, and I'm quite sure that if the job agency asks they will highly recommend me.
We'll see what the next adventure will be!

Your friend (later post) is right, any physical job takes at least a couple of weeks for muscle memory alone to kick in. I think you are right - old guys with unrealistic expectations having forgotten how they started out! Never mind, you have a heck of a lot to offer and there's something out there that's right for you!

jpscloud · Jun 20, 2024

Well where to start today! I'm in a really good frame of mind to get back to a healthy way of eating, but I've also had to accept that I can't do it without medications, at least for now. That means starting ozempic again and that feels an admission of failure, or like cheating somehow - I know it's not and I'll fight to the death on that hill but it is kind of the new bariatric surgery, seen as a cheat because you have "no willpower" and you're just "lazy" and "greedy". I know those ideas have no place on the forums here but they are still very prevalent in the world at large.

I am also taking forxiga and metformin, but don't take those on fasting or zero-ish carb days.

So I'll get started today. I'm looking forward to low carb meals now!

I have some new walking shoes arriving today, so if they are a good fit I will wear them to go for an afternoon walk up on a nearby hill, where I used to walk years ago. I'll still go for the walk even if I have to send them back though! I am not sure how far I can walk yet and will take it very easy. Then I plant to have a sit in the garden at dusk to watch the swifts, moths and bats (as long as it doesn't rain!)

Happy summer solstice everyone!

Edit:

Breakfast will be fried eggs with two halloumi slices

Lunch crispy chicken thighs

Dinner will be beef mince with cauliflower

There's a large strawberry in my little polytunnel that is just ripe today so that will be dessert with some greek yogurt!

Another edit: I will be taking a couple of ryvita with butter on my walk, as I have taken forxiga today. I won't be walking far but will stay on the safe side and have those few carbs.

Antje77 · Jun 20, 2024

jpscloud said:
Well where to start today! I'm in a really good frame of mind to get back to a healthy way of eating, but I've also had to accept that I can't do it without medications, at least for now. That means starting ozempic again and that feels an admission of failure, or like cheating somehow - I know it's not and I'll fight to the death on that hill but it is kind of the new bariatric surgery, seen as a cheat because you have "no willpower" and you're just "lazy" and "greedy". I know those ideas have no place on the forums here but they are still very prevalent in the world at large.

I'm very happy you know fully well that needing some help from medication is not a failure or cheating at all. Now only to get your soul to believe this as well, not only on the good days but on the bad as well.

You've been working crazy hard on your diabetes and struggles with carb cravings since early februari, nothing lazy about that.
You've held yourself accountable by staying on the forum even when the wagon sometimes drove off without you, and every time you've ran after that wagon to get back on at the next stop.
It would have been so easy to go back to where you were during the past years, pretending diabetes wasn't there because it was one thing too many to juggle in your life, but you didn't.
Instead, you've looked at the past months and decided you'll need some medication so you can still be healthy, not failure, wisdom!

With medication, the wagon will hopefully slow down a bit, making for a less bumpy ride. Much easier to stay on that way!

jpscloud · Jun 20, 2024

Antje77 said:
I'm very happy you know fully well that needing some help from medication is not a failure or cheating at all. Now only to get your soul to believe this as well, not only on the good days but on the bad as well.

You've been working crazy hard on your diabetes and struggles with carb cravings since early februari, nothing lazy about that.
You've held yourself accountable by staying on the forum even when the wagon sometimes drove off without you, and every time you've ran after that wagon to get back on at the next stop.
It would have been so easy to go back to where you were during the past years, pretending diabetes wasn't there because it was one thing too many to juggle in your life, but you didn't.
Instead, you've looked at the past months and decided you'll need some medication so you can still be healthy, not failure, wisdom!

With medication, the wagon will hopefully slow down a bit, making for a less bumpy ride. Much easier to stay on that way!

Thank you! There isn't an emoji to say how much I appreciate these incredibly kind and wise words! You have a way of seeing exactly how someone feels - yet another string to your bow! You'd make an amazing health counsellor, while we're talking jobs! Never too late to train.

Antje77 · Jun 20, 2024

jpscloud said:
Thank you! There isn't an emoji to say how much I appreciate these incredibly kind and wise words! You have a way of seeing exactly how someone feels - yet another string to your bow! You'd make an amazing health counsellor, while we're talking jobs! Never too late to train.

Oh my, you're making me blush...

AndBreathe · Jun 20, 2024

jpscloud said:
Well where to start today! I'm in a really good frame of mind to get back to a healthy way of eating, but I've also had to accept that I can't do it without medications, at least for now. That means starting ozempic again and that feels an admission of failure, or like cheating somehow - I know it's not and I'll fight to the death on that hill but it is kind of the new bariatric surgery, seen as a cheat because you have "no willpower" and you're just "lazy" and "greedy". I know those ideas have no place on the forums here but they are still very prevalent in the world at large.

I am also taking forxiga and metformin, but don't take those on fasting or zero-ish carb days.

So I'll get started today. I'm looking forward to low carb meals now!

I have some new walking shoes arriving today, so if they are a good fit I will wear them to go for an afternoon walk up on a nearby hill, where I used to walk years ago. I'll still go for the walk even if I have to send them back though! I am not sure how far I can walk yet and will take it very easy. Then I plant to have a sit in the garden at dusk to watch the swifts, moths and bats (as long as it doesn't rain!)

Happy summer solstice everyone!

Edit:

Breakfast will be fried eggs with two halloumi slices

Lunch crispy chicken thighs

Dinner will be beef mince with cauliflower

There's a large strawberry in my little polytunnel that is just ripe today so that will be dessert with some greek yogurt!

Another edit: I will be taking a couple of ryvita with butter on my walk, as I have taken forxiga today. I won't be walking far but will stay on the safe side and have those few carbs.

When you go walking, don't forget you have to do the return journey too.

Having help on big tasks isn't failure. It is sensible. The press has done dreadful things for those who need Ozempic/Wegovy et all, and for whom it is a credible tool. Unfortunately, some of the "celebrity" users help them along.

Do what you need to do. You are the one who will benefit most. Anything others think isn't worth a jot.

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