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About 50% of the speeches and workshops were about diabetes – these were mostly looking at the scale of problem, the failings in prevention and treatment and some of new technology ideas to support diabetics. The failure rates on Type 1 diabetes are particularly worrying.
Could you expand on what you mean by this please? When you say the failure rate on type 1 diabetes I'm struggling to see you mean failure in preventing, given that no one knows what causes type 1. Do you mean failure in treatment? If so, how is success/failure of t1d treatment assessed?
i mean in management.
they big concern is the failure of all diabetics, but particularly type 1 to meet their blood score targets,
about 70% of type 1 and 34% of type 2 are failing to get inside 58mmol on HbA1c
if you look across all three blood test targets (HbA1c, pressure and blood fats) only 19% of type 1 and 41% of type 2 are making all three targets.
Thank you. I think the hba1c target is 48. Although this is adjusted for individuals too take into account lifestyle and hypo awareness. Did anyone give any plans to help people with type 1 manage their diabetes to meet the targets and improve the success rates? Bearing in mind it is exceptional to get funding for a continuous glucose monitor.
48 is considered good, only 9% make 48, 58 is considered OK, anything above 86 is considered critical, 15% of T1s are above 86.
pretty much nothing of note on improving this, personally i think we need to improve the quality of educational information for type 1, particularly for kids.
well that is very worrying, it looks like an indirect kind of suicide, and those numbers should just by themselves make politicians aware that the treatment regimen is not at all good enought in helping especially type 1 but altså type 2 patients on their very often very lonely jurney
Personally, I think it's pretty easy to get a LCHF diet right: cut out grains, starchy veg, rice, and sugar. Also, avoid industrially produced veg/seed oils and factory processed packaged foods. Don't avoid full fat dairy and red meat. Eat mostly minimally processed whole foods. Easy!!
An overeater still overeats on lchf. That needs putting right.Personally, I think it's pretty easy to get a LCHF diet right: cut out grains, starchy veg, rice, and sugar. Also, avoid industrially produced veg/seed oils and factory processed packaged foods. Don't avoid full fat dairy and red meat. Eat mostly minimally processed whole foods. Easy!!
Was there any awareness by those who attended that the Eatwell plate recommendation is harming successful outcomes in diabetes management and contributing to the high figures?
they big concern is the failure of all diabetics, but particularly type 1 to meet their blood score targets,
about 70% of type 1 and 34% of type 2 are failing to get inside 58mmol on HbA1c
if you look across all three blood test targets (HbA1c, pressure and blood fats) only 19% of type 1 and 41% of type 2 are making all three targets.
Having had a very similar conversation about this yesterday with someone who is a leading light in the UK pumping world, when you discover that a significant portion of people using pumps don't test the four times a day just to keep them safe on the pump, the issue is very clearly that there are huge psychological issues with type 1 that need to be addressed.48 is considered good, only 9% make 48, 58 is considered OK, anything above 86 is considered critical, 15% of T1s are above 86.
pretty much nothing of note on improving this, personally i think we need to improve the quality of educational information for type 1, particularly for kids.
Having had a very similar conversation about this yesterday with someone who is a leading light in the UK pumping world, when you discover that a significant portion of people using pumps don't test the four times a day just to keep them safe on the pump, the issue is very clearly that there are huge psychological issues with type 1 that need to be addressed.
Telling people to do things doesn't help. DAFNE clearly helps some, but not all, and the key is still to get people to accept that they have T1 and they need to do something about it rather than pushing it away and ignoring it. Part of the trick is to try and get people talking to one another face to face, so they know that "Just another T1D looks like me". Even getting people to do that is hard.
It comes back to the same things. The HCPs aren't all that bothered about those of us engaging in social media, whatever form it is. It means we are engaged and caring, and while we might not have the numbers we want, we at least are trying. It's the 95% of the population that isn't that drives the concerns. And now amount of shouting or threatening is helping that. COnferences that say "71% (If you look at the National diabetes audit data) of T1s have an Hba1C greater than 7.5% (which is an improvement on previous years, by the way!!!), how terrible", misses the point. Just about every specialist involved in Diabetes knows this. What they are struggling with is how to change it. Some of us are trying to help, but the critically difficult aspect to it is the individuals themselves and their involvements in their diabetes. Until you can find a compelling reason for them to get involved themselves, then nothing is likely to change. And identifying that trigger is proving very difficult.
Hi. I don't agree at all that LCHF is difficult to teach or convey. What do you mean by '... the consequences can be quite serious'? I can't think of any reason at all why LCHF can have serious consequences. This is just negative thinking and is the reason the NHS is moving at snails pace whilst great harm is done to many thru the Eatwell Guide.
I suppose that the "High Fat" could be easily misunderstood as "eat what you want on fatty foods regardless the calories or the kind of food".Hi. I don't agree at all that LCHF is difficult to teach or convey.
The main concern of the eatwell guide is that is an oversimplification and is aimed to people that are eating far worse than the eatwell guides. If one is following a Mediterranean diet or a lov carb diet, that guide is a step back.whilst great harm is done to many thru the Eatwell Guide.
What happens if you don't eat lots of fibre and eat lots of saturated fat? I don't eat any fibre and I eat lots of saturated fat and I've never been healthier in my life.their concerns are about people not getting enough fiber and people consuming the wrong fats, both of which have serious consequences.
What happens if you don't eat lots of fibre and eat lots of saturated fat? I don't eat any fibre and I eat lots of saturated fat and I've never been healthier in my life.
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