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Message: <blockquote data-quote="xyzzy" data-source="post: 277441" data-attributes="member: 40343">No I didn't miss that and as Lucy will attest I PM'ed her separately about the kind of things she could talk to her GP about regarding mitigating the risks as part of my recent discussions with my own specialist diabetes gp were along a similar theme. My post simply points out how using latest research you can calculate the RDA for protein and the implications of staying at the RDA for protein while also effectively fixing carbohydrate intake as well. The implication is obvious which is to get a reasonable calorific intake you are likely to have to up the fat in your regime. Pretty obvious as that's why most low carb regimes are namely low carb high fat regimes or LCHF as shorthand. No one is recommending a low carb high protein regime especially if they have an impaired kidney function. I have both roughly fixed my carbohydrate intake and my protein intake but upped my fat significantly and have seen huge IMPROVEMENTS in my cholesterol levels so a LCHF approach appears to both be safe and beneficial. I'm glad we agree Phoenix as that is what I said too. The difference as I pointed out is that as diet only T2's we need, with the help of our GP's and other expert T2 opinion to make a risk assessment to end up at a regime which we feel has the safest carbohydrate / protein / fat balance or put it another way minimise our risks. If we are forced by wanting safe blood levels to fix our carbohydrates to so many grams per day and likewise told it's best to fix our protein at round about the RDA then by implication most of us, unless you are Sid or Grazer, end up adopting LCHF by default as otherwise we would starve. Even 200g or 40% (which is what I understand you recommend but do correct me if I'm wrong) is still slightly under the UK RDA for carbs. The question I would ask you Phoenix or anyone else is would you, based on seeing the improvements I have made in terms of HbA1c, cholesterol, blood pressure and weight loss and given I have discussed in detail with my diabetes specialist gp and taken his advice on this protein RDA issue insist I should up my carbs back to 40%? A very simple yes or no answer.</blockquote>

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