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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ianpspurs" data-source="post: 2345330" data-attributes="member: 193971">Advent poem today is <a href="https://malcolmguite.wordpress.com/2014/12/06/o-adonai-my-second-advent-antiphon-reflection-and-sonnet-4/" target="_blank">O Adonai by Malcolm Guite</a>. Overtly Christian based on the O Antiphon. The plain song antiphons are very special IMHO so <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6n6e4JNYbo" target="_blank">this </a>may appeal to some. Seamus Heaney allegedly said poetry really starts to become poetry only when spoken and anyhow we don’t remember whole poems, Some parts lodge in our memory and we finally “own a poem” when those parts come to mind in odd day to day moments. [USER=470000]@Alien Aspie[/USER] I think we may differ over The Primal statement. I am (consciousness first) versus It is (C21st scientific, “flat” culture which can’t explain how we arrive at being conscious  enough to be aware that it is!.)  You know where I stand on that question and I think I know where you are. Both are very reasonable places to be - I did engage.</blockquote>

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