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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Muddy Cyclist" data-source="post: 2357563" data-attributes="member: 505893">They need tougher winters to get in some practice like we used to get back in our younger driving days. Last lot of snow some Mom delivering kids to a child minder, left her 4x4 Range Rover straddling the road at the top of our hilll, nothing could pass, she refused to move it because she was so scared, I offered to move it for her but even with the assurance I had driven 4x4s in much worse condition she would not let me near it. I eventually had to drive my VW camper van onto the pavement over a grassy knoll to get out of our street to get to my hospital appointment. It was still blocking the road on my return. A bit of momentum but not too much, correct gears and a clear run, no problem.[USER=179219]@dunelm[/USER] is right about modern 4x4s not liking more than a few inches of water, however my 4x4 could paddle I have had water halfway up my front windscreen. [ATTACH=full]46982[/ATTACH] A lot of  additional engineering to achieve it though, this vehicle did 700,000 miles and was sold as a runner to a Russian who took it back to Russia, might still be running.</blockquote>

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