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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ianpspurs" data-source="post: 2747349" data-attributes="member: 193971"><p>Firstly, that is an awful situation for your SIL and her daughter. Sadly, one has a strong feeling that is a far from unique scenario which raises the question how did we get here? I remember reading some pieces from the Sunday Times economist in the mid 1980s  - basically pro-Her and "well connected"  - saying this was obviously where it/we would end up and the majority would never save enough for their old age to mitigate things so it was a waste of their time trying. Just eat. drink and be merry.  Does seem to imply that at some level "they" knew but wanted the votes anyhow so at worst kept quiet about that little downside.  As for that psalm, I really couldn't quite work out how Red States Christians vote for that in such massive numbers but watching some of the sermons they are given is revealing. I can't make the bible mean what those preachers say it does, guess I'm too dumb ad degenerate. Lest we here in this tiny Island feel smug and forget, there's Nigel and before him Brexit and Boris. To be fair neither could play the religious card - that would be too far fetched even for them. As the prayer of penitence says, the toxic combination of negligence, weakness and our own deliberate fault is always to blame: its who we used our freewill to be - for now. Nonetheless, thoughts and prayers with SIL and family and take the memory of that situation into the ballot box.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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