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Alekssanderi

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Type of diabetes
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So my blood sugars goin high. When i went to sleep i measured 7. I did 10 units of lantus. At 5 am in the morning i woke up and blood sugar was 16. So i did 8 units of novorapid and 12 units of lantus. I ate 4 raw eggs and protein shake with milk. Wasnt much milk. Hour later blood sugar was 11. And then i walked like 2 km to work measured again and it was 14. So thats whats going on lately. I have no idea.
 
Well, some people have to dose for their protein intake as well as carbs. But you message is not very clear about usual ratios etc.
Was that a usual breakfast for you? If so how many carbs and how do you normally dose and what is the usual result? Are you body building and had you been for a workout? Have you done a basal test recently? What had you eaten the night before? And finally are you feeling unwell?
 
Hello, depending on what brand of protein shake you had, there is some carbs in the protein powder and there have been other diabetics saying protein in eggs do raise their BG.
your reading of 16 could possibly be due to DP - liver doing it's thing by dumping sugar.
Hormones in the morning does make insulin take time to work. I have to agree with @Diakat that a basal check will be good to see if your background is working correctly or may need adjusting.
 
Basal testing can be found by typing that term into the question box right upper on Forum page.
The idea is to let you know what your Lantus insulin is doing in the background. It certainly seems like it is not working well at night.
But answers to the questions asked above would help us to help you too.
Some of us find our blood sugar level rises in the first few hours after exercise, particularly if the exercise is intense and the reason is probably that such exercise causes or is associated with release of adrenaline which can influence the liver to release stored glucose into the blood stream.
Please note however that some 4 to 6 hoours after exercise the muscles draw glucose out of the blood stream to replenish their own stores of glucose and low blood sugars may result from this.
Finally there are cautions about strating exercise with blood sugars over about 13 to 14 mmol/l as the liver in these circumstances releases more glucose and the end result may be even higher blood sugars.
Looking forward to more info from you.
Best Wishes.:):):)
 
I though i try to eat tomorrow morning as i used to. Two peanut butter breads and coffee. And kinda check blood sugar then and give you guys an update. Maybe it is that eggs affect blood sugar. I remwmber one weekend i ate a omlette, thought that it has no carbs in it and my glucose was ok before eating but checking afterwards it was high as hell
 
Ok. So it seems i get highs in morning. Yesterday all the day was okay and begore bed i measured 8. Injected 10 jnits lantus ( i used to inject 13) and in morning it was 13. Should i inject 13 or take it even below 10?
 
So my bg morning was 13. I did 7 units novorapid and 13 units lantus. Then i walked approx 2km to work. Its 2 hours later and my bg was 16 and i did additional 7 units of novorapid. May it be that i didnt get my insulin. I only ate 2 peanut butter sandwich which isnt much carbs and coffe without sugar.
 
From 13 to 16 isn’t that much of a rise.

It sounds like you might need to look at dawn phenomenon and possibly a basal test too. Also pre blousing will probably benefit you.
 
Okay, but how could i gwt rid of morning highs when before sleep BG is ok. Should i increase lantus?
 
You need to do a basal test to see if Lantau needs increasing. If it is OK then you can reduce morning highs by waking early for a correction or looking at a pump.
 
Aint 23 years old too old for pump. Also its kinda expensive. In july im going to doctor and ask for tresiba. Maybe its better
 
Alekssanderi said:
Aint 23 years old too old for pump. Also its kinda expensive. In july im going to doctor and ask for tresiba. Maybe its better
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There's plenty of people on there who are over twice that age and have been given pumps (alternatively, yes, a 23 year old pump is probably knackered by now :-) )

Trying different basal regimes isn't a bad plan. Lantus, tresiba, levemir, toujeo, and once or twice daily. Eg I'm on levemir twice daily, which doesn't do too badly for me overnight.

If you've got some form of CGM (libre, dexcom), you can see what your levels are doing overnight. Or just testing every hour - tedious, but if you want to address this, might be necessary. Eg if they're ok all night, but then kick up in the morning, increasing your basal isn't going to help you - you'll go hypo, which will cause problems of its own, and might even increase the morning kick as your body reacts. But if your levels are rising through the night, that tells you there may not be enough basal.

We're not allowed to suggest doses though. Some people are happy changing these things on their own, but if you're not, get help from your diabetic team.
 
@Alekssanderi i notice you mentioned taking your Lantus in the morning.
Some people find it does not work for the full 24 hours. I wonder if it starting to run out for you overnight which is contributing to your morning highs.
As mentioned, changing your long acting insulin may help. Or you could split your Lantus to take some in the morning and some at night.
 
helensaramay said:
@Alekssanderi i notice you mentioned taking your Lantus in the morning.
Some people find it does not work for the full 24 hours. I wonder if it starting to run out for you overnight which is contributing to your morning highs.
As mentioned, changing your long acting insulin may help. Or you could split your Lantus to take some in the morning and some at night.
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Yes, thats right. I splitted my dose like year ago cuz my late night BG were high. So instead of smth 24 units i was doing 12 before sleep and 12 in the morning. It swemed to work fine. Yesterday before dinner i measured BG 8. So i thought i try out omlette without injecting insulin. As i know omlette dont got carbs so much. 2 hours later BG was 11. I did 3 units novorapid and tried increasing lantus from 10 to 12. At 1 oclock night my BG was 3.9. I ate like 33 carbs. And then at 6 am my BG was 10, lowest morning i had in 2 weeks. I did my injections 20 minutes before eating and ill see what my BG show when i get to work i think if i hadnt done the 3 units novorapid for my 11 BG before sleep my BG would maybe have been normal at morning. Sorry for my bad english
 
@Alekssanderi regarding your omlette raising your BG even though it contained no carbs, this is very very common.
If you eat no or very few carbs, your body will break down the protein and you will need insulin. It's a bit trial and error to work out how much but, I have found there is no such thing as a a no-insulin meal.
 
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