What's the cause of diabetes again. Ie type 2

My interest in diabetes comes via my interest in low carb. I've been reading some books and websites. I've been on a weightloss thing since January and another forum i've been on lead me to the low carb thing. I've been doing low carb for about six weeks.

Another poster on this site led me to ask this question. Actually they told me to read up on it, as i pointed out in my original post. Given the engagement with the question from other posters, it seems to interesting and relevant to everyone here too and surprising there hasn't been more discussion about it already. But in general i am interested in the causes of diseases in general. Just as a general interest.

My point about other races was just a point of interest.

The idea that the diabetes is a liver condition is new and interesting. thanks for sharing that thought.

With regards to the changes in diet since WW2. There is a really interesting british tv series called The Men Who Made us Fat and followed by the Men Who Made us Thin. If you haven't seen i highly recommend it and you can find it on you tube. It has persuaded me that the cause of the obesity epidemic is the food industry. It explores a lot of the issues and makes very compelling arguments.

I am also seeing more of this in books and so on. Right Now i'm reading In Defense of Food which raises some of the arguments but more sharply points out the dangers of processed foods which a lot of people are struggling to accept and go with. that is to say, whole foods are healthier so minimise all processed foods. For my part, apart from ice-cream and other obvious problem foods, i've been avoiding these processed foods for some time e.g. low fat milk products and any other low fat foods, as well always avoiding things like energy bars and the like. I was never persuaded by the low fat milk idea. It didn't ring true to me that a whole food that no longer tasted good could be healthier than the whole food version. That said, a certain degree of processing isn't considered a major problem but if you compare cornflakes and fruit loops it should be obvious which is the more unhealthy. Cornflakes at least does not loads of sugar in it. So common sense is required.

its good to know that the energy drinks and products for sport are being ditched. But really low carb is probably only very important for diabetics and insulin resistant people. It has other advantages for non diabetics etc,when dieting but its not essential i'm finding. I can lose weight on either diet. And i expect i can keep it on off on either diet too. The main advantage for high fat low carb is less hunger when dieting - because my body is providing the extra fuel, when there's a calorie deficit.

Yes i think we have to make our doctors read some of the books we're reading.

The natural sugars in milk should not be confused with the added i.e. refined sugar. The natural sugars in milk a) do not cause tooth decay and are not the same as the added sugars you'd find in say ice-cream. If you believe they are the same, then you also believe that carbswhich turn into sugars in vegetables are on a par. No all sugar is not the same. Refined sugar is the problem, not natural sugars.

"The food industry wants you to have diabetic foods. Everyone knows that is rubbish."

I'm Not sure what you mean here. Are you trying to contradict me or are you saying something else? Anyway i didn't say the food industry " wants you to have diabetic foods". The food industry wants to make money and doesn't care how it achieves it.

I do not believe in "hating on carbs". That's an insupportable position. No scientist would support this position.