Squire Fulwood
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- Messages
- 6,111
- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Diet only
Phoebe13 said:Gracek, I have to say I massively agree with Kimiwolf. I was diagnosed at the age of 10 - and it wasn't so much the "Not being able to stuff my face with sugar and chocolate" that I resented and used to go home and cry into a pillow over - it was being different.
At a time in your life where you are just desperate to fit in and be liked, being mocked and called names for suffering from diabetes was - for me anyway - incredibly difficult.
The fact that you needed to be diagnosed with diabetes to realise you needed to be healthier is a very drastic measure, and I wouldn't wish the diagnosis on anyone, no matter how overweight or unhealthy their lifestyle. It sounds like you support some kind of ridiculously over-bearing nanny state, where we are told exactly what to do, when and where. I for one am all about personal freedom, and I find your extended post quite offensive - it almost sounds like you are saying type 2 diabetics all deserve their diagnosis because they must be over-weight and have brought it on themselves?
Phoebe13 said:Gracek, I have to say I massively agree with Kimiwolf. I was diagnosed at the age of 10 - and it wasn't so much the "Not being able to stuff my face with sugar and chocolate" that I resented and used to go home and cry into a pillow over - it was being different.
At a time in your life where you are just desperate to fit in and be liked, being mocked and called names for suffering from diabetes was - for me anyway - incredibly difficult.
The fact that you needed to be diagnosed with diabetes to realise you needed to be healthier is a very drastic measure, and I wouldn't wish the diagnosis on anyone, no matter how overweight or unhealthy their lifestyle. It sounds like you support some kind of ridiculously over-bearing nanny state, where we are told exactly what to do, when and where. I for one am all about personal freedom, and I find your extended post quite puzzling - it almost sounds like you are saying type 2 diabetics all deserve their diagnosis because they must be over-weight and have brought it on themselves?
GraceK said:Phoebe13 said:Gracek, I have to say I massively agree with Kimiwolf. I was diagnosed at the age of 10 - and it wasn't so much the "Not being able to stuff my face with sugar and chocolate" that I resented and used to go home and cry into a pillow over - it was being different.
At a time in your life where you are just desperate to fit in and be liked, being mocked and called names for suffering from diabetes was - for me anyway - incredibly difficult.
The fact that you needed to be diagnosed with diabetes to realise you needed to be healthier is a very drastic measure, and I wouldn't wish the diagnosis on anyone, no matter how overweight or unhealthy their lifestyle. It sounds like you support some kind of ridiculously over-bearing nanny state, where we are told exactly what to do, when and where. I for one am all about personal freedom, and I find your extended post quite puzzling - it almost sounds like you are saying type 2 diabetics all deserve their diagnosis because they must be over-weight and have brought it on themselves?
I can understand the not wanting to be different at the age of 10. I was perceived as 'different' for ethnic reasons from the day I was born so I guess I probably got used to a certain amount of name calling from a young age but I have learned to sling it back if it keeps coming - and it still does sometimes.
The diabetes diagnosis didn't spur me on to be healthier, I've always eaten 'healthily' etc, but what the diabetes did was show me that healthy eating for a non diabetic may not be healthy eating for a diabetic so I now know what I need to cut out of my diet in order to feel 'normal' again. In that respect a diagnosis has been a Godsend.
I wasn't at all saying that T2 or any other diabetic deserves their diagnosis. Not at all. I was saying that what we WANT and what we NEED are very different things. I don't think anyone 'deserves' any illness at all. And I do think think our Government has a responsibility not to allow the advertising and promotion of poisonous foods which cause a great deal of ill health whilst at the same time lecturing us on our obesity problems and how much we're costing the NHS. Stop pushing the **** in the first place, stop giving mixed messages to the public where cigs, alcohol and sweets are concerned. They have no nutritional value. But they have a tax value.
We complain and are horrified when other countries commit genocide against their own people, yet we turn a blind eye to our own Government poisoning us with sugar. Sugar maybe sweet but it's still a killer.
GraceK said:Phoebe13 said:Gracek, I have to say I massively agree with Kimiwolf. I was diagnosed at the age of 10 - and it wasn't so much the "Not being able to stuff my face with sugar and chocolate" that I resented and used to go home and cry into a pillow over - it was being different.
At a time in your life where you are just desperate to fit in and be liked, being mocked and called names for suffering from diabetes was - for me anyway - incredibly difficult.
The fact that you needed to be diagnosed with diabetes to realise you needed to be healthier is a very drastic measure, and I wouldn't wish the diagnosis on anyone, no matter how overweight or unhealthy their lifestyle. It sounds like you support some kind of ridiculously over-bearing nanny state, where we are told exactly what to do, when and where. I for one am all about personal freedom, and I find your extended post quite puzzling - it almost sounds like you are saying type 2 diabetics all deserve their diagnosis because they must be over-weight and have brought it on themselves?
Are you saying that there are not two types?The most annoying thing is the suggestion that there is two different kinds of diabetes. Diabetes symptoms are weight loss, and inability to quench thirst and death within a relatively short time without insulin administered externally of course. Type 2s of course are normally overweight which would normally expect to be caused by too much natural insulin flowing in the body.
In the past doctors denied this as they had the idea that the pancreas had some way of regulating the flow of insulin. This has at last been proved wrong by the drug companies who say Metformin does not increase the flow of insulin, it limits the release of sugar from the liver.
When will doctors use some common sense and just cure diabetes?
Same here, 31 not overweight and do my fair share of exercise BUT do have two type 2 parents!!Wenan said:Type 2 affects people who are obese and take no exercise. I hear this a lot on TV, I have type 2 and am normal weight and have several energetic hobbies. I've only had to stop them because of a prolapsed disc.
Type 2 from Nov 2011 1X 500mg Met SR
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