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White pasta helps lose weight? Revealed

Link is behind a registration page. Is this the same rubbish Sky News felt necessary to run a story on the middle of last week?

In other news; Slimming World came out last week to say that an avocado is unhealthier than a can of cider.
 
Pasta forms part of the Mediterranean Diet plan, which studies have shown is effective in treating diabetes in some people, It is a recommended diet on this site among others
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/mediterranean-diet.html

Edit to add: I have not gained access to the report in Medscape above, so I have not read it, However, I suspect that as a standard weigh loss strategy it may have more valididty, whereas on this forum we view such things with a bias towards LC diets, so it is easy to make out it is a wolf in sheeps clothing, The Japanese used noodles for a long time without a diabetes epidemic, and it is only recently that they now experience such health issues. Pasta in the right context and in moderation may indeed help keep you slim, and I have not seen any proper studies that prove a causal link to diabetes per se.
 
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I respect @Oldvatr 's opinion as I don't use diet doctor or have throughout weight loss but their recipes are encouraging. Especially to the newees. I refuse to pay to sign up to them thou.
 
Really what agenda would that be? I think you will find that Dr Eenfeldt is pretty independently minded.
 
bulkbiker said:
Really what agenda would that be? I think you will find that Dr Eenfeldt is pretty independently minded.
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When you consider how the LC message goes so strongly in the face of previously accepted medical opinion, the internet is very, very VERY quiet in terms of critique or dissension. In fact, Dietdoctor.com rules the airways in a way that reminds me of a scammer who really understood how to manipulate the search engines, Now this may be just a sign of a successful marketing operation, but it is very slick, and hence IMO suspicious, I found nothing that provided anything like an overview or review that was independant of DD or that queried any aspect of their operations. So I feel if there is independant oversight, then it is being suppressed. I would be happier if there was open discussion going on and queries/ challenges but I could not find any.

Dr Andreas Eenfeldt is no longer practising as a medical practitioner. He is the founder member, CEO, and owner of the operation, and so is unlikely to express any contrary opinion or data that could hurt the bottom line, so, yes, I do not believe he is independant now,

Having said all that, I find personally that I have no quibble with the message being put out, and merely state that I would not consider their website as being a Primary Source that I could use as a citation or reference. The site reads more like a magazine periodical, or glorified blogsheet, and I would not use links to their site as 'proof positive; for a point that I was making. I cannot accept their advice as being truly independant.
 

I understand your concern. In the world of this time everything is about the money - it is so strong phenomenon that when I read some paper I first look for autors and their connection to the sources of money :-(

For Andreas money source and intention you can see this video, where is plain and trustworthy explanation (I trust it and I am VERY sceptical!). Starts at 31:00, but whole video is good.
 
There's very little that is new about pasta...and the push back against ketogenic diets..
http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20040317/pasta-fights-back

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/11/dining/pasta-lovers-take-a-stand-in-rome-where-else.html

There is enough free low carb info on Diet Doctor that we don't need to pay a dime to normalize our glucose/insulin levels. It is the only low carb site that I subscribe to, but hardly ever log in. I believe the information they provided is more helpful for T2D than any mainstream diabetes/health guideline had given over the decades.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/about/the-story-of-diet-doctor
 
Dr Jay Wortman gave a pretty interesting talk on this topic, the push back against Atkins...I am quite sure we will see it again...



 
Pasta is a low gi food that release glucose at about half the rate of pure glucose. In term of glycaemic control, the amount still need to be considered. The best way to guage will be using a glucometer.
 
I do not question his ethics, and I am not questioning his message that his website conveys. but where I have a difficulty is that he is no longer a single voice in the web wilderness, but is leading a company that employs staff, has overheads to pay, and creditors to assuage. These put immense pressure on him to make the site pay, and so he will be very focussed in marketing his message, and it is this focus that I think may form some tunnel vision effect. I am concerned that his website only gives one message and is not open to critique or oversight, so by that his reliability as an independant source of info is fixated and governed by his success or failure. It is a problem that others have fallen into before, and there comes a certain corporate blindness that clouds the vision of even the best guru's.. I worked in Aerospace, and we had a very safety conscious ethic thay we tried to adhere to at all times, but often it was corrupted by the bean counters taking control through the purse strings. Sad fact of life, but it boils down to money and the bottom line. Dietdoctor is not a charity. It is not an independant repository of knowledge, It has an agenda.
 
millenium said:
Pasta is a low gi food that release glucose at about half the rate of pure glucose. In term of glycaemic control, the amount still need to be considered. The best way to guage will be using a glucometer.
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There are people who successfully use a GI control type of diet for their diabetes. I myself use GI control to a certain degree. While I personally avoid pasta in my diet, I do so because I tested myself and found it was not the best for me, However, recently I have been able to increase my carb intake due to improved IR response, and so I do have it on occasions.

Even so, I would tend to choose wholwheat pasta instead of white processed pasta. Low GI still pushes the same amount of carbs in total into the bloodstream, but at a slower rate so the spike becomes a lower bump that lasts longer. Cf a boil compared to a pimple. Both are a nuisance. So I cannot recommend pasta as being beneficial for diabetics since there are better foods to use instead.

But the Mediterranean diet is recognised as a valid diet for diabetes, as are other GI control strategies. LC is not the only kid on the block, but does have quite a lot going for it.
 
I agree with you. Theory from book need to be tested on the body.

The amount of carb that the body can tolerate per meal is as important as the gi. The extent which the pasta is cooked will significantly affect its gi as well.
 
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