So the magical money tree will be in NI then.....
So the magical money tree will be in NI then.....Looks like Con's have done a deal with the DUP and will form a government accordingly, but no matter how you look at last nights results it was a disastrous night for May and the Tory Party and a spectacular night for Corbyn and the Labour Party.
Yep and we will have that for sure. I'll just keep my head down and watch with interest.They voted for chaos this time by the looks of it.
Hopefully, this makes a less damaging Brexit more likely;
I guess soSo the magical money tree will be in NI then.....
Yes. The thing is the single market and free movement go together. It would help if people understood that EU migrants who come here to work make a net contribution to the economy and tend to use services less than we do. This is a truth that the tabloids are not interest in. Of course migration brings problems and has to be controlled. People have told me the NHS can't cope with immigrants and you can't get your kids into school. The truth is that the Government is happy to take their taxes, but not interested in providing the services they need. And immigration is a useful distraction. I spoke to an old man recently complaining about people using the NHS. His standpoint was completely racist. Ironically, the person he was talking about was probably born here. I actually asked him (to avoid the race references), "So, if a German or a Frenchman comes here to work in the city, and he pays his taxes and national insurance, you are saying that he is not entitled to use the NHS or put his children in school".Yep and we will have that for sure. I'll just keep my head down and watch with interest.
That would be nice, but I'm still not sure the EU will do us any favours . We chose to leave. Folks here seem to want to be still part of the single market, but not part of the single market when it comes to labour. I'm not sure the majority of Brits will be happy whatever the terms are.
Brexit means Brexit ( running for cover with @Diakat )...
True. It's a shambles.I find it weird listening to the major party leaders (Tories, labour, SNP etc) this morning all claiming they won. In reality, none of them won. The country certainly hasn't won. It is all a mess. The very important Brexit negotiations .... well, I hate to think about those. Europe wants certainty (and they are right) but doesn't care which political persuasion prevails. Certainty is what we don't have and can never have with a hung parliament, each side relying on help from others, which may or may not be there at crucial times..
Since the referendum on the EU was called primarily in response to threats from the EU to clamp down on tax havens and investment schemes with continual discussion around introducing a Tobin Tax I think the guys with the most to gain from Brexit have succeeded. I think the Europeans were surprised the people in the street accepted the arguments and claims like £350m pw for the NHS so readily but since the patrons of our local social club were celebrating winning the right to buy banana's in any shape they wanted I rather suspect those people at least had never been exposed to a reasoned discussion about it. Absolutely no reason why anything would have changed since then so the will of the 1% majority (630,000 people) prevail. Bit of a nuisance for the organisation I am with as that is 80% of funding and a place on several research and development boards lost but tbh given the interests of she who leads DEFRA that would have been a very likely outcome anyway.Yep and we will have that for sure. I'll just keep my head down and watch with interest.
That would be nice, but I'm still not sure the EU will do us any favours . We chose to leave. Folks here seem to want to be still part of the single market, but not part of the single market when it comes to labour. I'm not sure the majority of Brits will be happy whatever the terms are.
Brexit means Brexit ( running for cover with @Diakat )...
Paul Dacre has his own agenda.It's a bloody good thing for the Tories that Labour didn't have a leader that was liked by the media and people on the street!!!!
Paul Dacre has his own agenda.
Where remarkably large numbers of people also voted remain and there was a similar swing to labour in many of those seats too. Not so different!Locally, the whole of the Merseyside revolted with a ten percent average swing to Labour. Unbelievable!
This follows the brexit vote were the area voted solidly remain.
I'm certain we live in a different country than the south!
Daily Hate Mail editor. May was his candidate.Oh him!
Isn't he (sorry my post will be deleted!)
Very right wing and in favour of tax havens and such, but only for the few?
I was aware of that amongst other things!Daily Hate Mail editor. May was his candidate.
It's a bloody good thing for the Tories that Labour didn't have a leader that was liked by the media and people on the street!!!!
Where remarkably large numbers of people also voted remain and there was a similar swing to labour in many of those seats too. Not so different!
Where remarkably large numbers of people also voted remain and there was a similar swing to labour in many of those seats too. Not so different!
Yes, my constituency (in Lancashire and therefore not in the south @Lamont D ) voted our Conservative MP back with an increased majority over Labour, 58% of the vote and a 3.7% swing. We had an overwhelming majority to leave.
I don't think that is accurate. I don't know figures for the rest of the South East, but in London there was also an average 10% swing to Labour. In the Eu referendum London voted by 60% to Remain.Locally, the whole of the Merseyside revolted with a ten percent average swing to Labour. Unbelievable!
This follows the brexit vote were the area voted solidly remain.
I'm certain we live in a different country than the south!
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