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I picked up from the link to Birmingham infor that all diabetics have a right to attend a course, DAFNE, DESMOND or XPERT. I have never been offered any of theese and neither has T1 husband.
Who has been?
Was it useful?
 
Worcestershire PCT doesn't fund either of the courses.
 
I've been on one. It was brilliant. Not, perhaps, for its intended reasons (dose adjustment and carb counting) - More for the opportunity to meet and discuss things with people in the same boat. Rather like this forum in that respect.
 
PCT = Primary Care Trust. They are responsible for the provision of care in your region. They control the purse strings. They should have a web site from which you can find out if they provide any courses, a quicker alternative might be just to talk with your DN.

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I've been on the DAFNE course and I highly reccomend it to T1 completely....

The information they give is brillient very informative and a good source of all information to do with diabetes...

Hannadr I know that you are a low carber, but don't be put off with the NHS precived view of what diet a diabetic should follow...

Look at the dietary information as the template they are working from to pass all the other information over to you... As the rest of the information that they give is relavent whether you want to eat complex carbs or a low/restricted carb diet the same rules and data apply... But you would have learn't how they apply and can then do your own thing...

There is a plus as well, if more diabetes turn up, wanting to aid there control with low carbs then they will have to sit up and listen get my drift :D

Sadly I can't comment on the T2 versions as such for obvious reasons I'm T1, but would assume that they will use there dietary information as there template... But the same applies it worth going to get the other inforamtion that you require to make the most of control and understanding of diabetes
 
Hi Hana,
I've been on the Desmonds course which was well presented and gave plenty of information on Bg monitoring, exercise, and complications that can arise from poor BG control. So far so good, the last part of the course was dietary information which I have included for all to see:

Eat regular meals. The most important thing when you have diabetes is to eat regularly, including breakfast, lunch, evening meal and supper every day. Try to plan your meals round starchy foods such as wholemeal bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and wholegrain cereals. If you are hungry between meals have a piece of fruit.

Is It any wonder that T2s are being discouraged from regular testing, if I ate that diet I'm sure I would get anxious and depressed at being unable to attain decent BG control.

Graham
 
i will state now, I've not been on a course, so I might be wrong.

i got offered the Desmond course when i got diagnosed, all i say thank god i can use the internet. I looked at the general advice offered, figured it was wrong. so never bothered. I do scientific studies as part of my work so wasn't difficult to swap over. hence found out the science is so flawed about diabetes it beggars belief. I believe (and nothings changed my mind yet) that the science is more doctrine than actual real science, i find no evidence to back it, i find no proof, i just find a consensus. if anybody knows anything about consensual science, it means that, scientist want a theory to be true, if no facts or theories fit the bill, and if experiment results are offered that are against their belief, it is ignored, It's made a consensus and agree a common agenda because of cherry picking evidence. sorry but sod em
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I've done the DAFNE course, and found it really good. Mine was funded by the local NHS, or who ever they are, whetever a PCT is etc???????

My diabetic nurse put me forward for it, sna it is very very helpfull.
 
Ozzie said:
i will state now, I've not been on a course, so I might be wrong.

i got offered the Desmond course when i got diagnosed, all i say thank god i can use the internet. I looked at the general advice offered, figured it was wrong. so never bothered. I do scientific studies as part of my work so wasn't difficult to swap over. hence found out the science is so flawed about diabetes it beggars belief. I believe (and nothings changed my mind yet) that the science is more doctrine than actual real science, i find no evidence to back it, i find no proof, i just find a consensus. if anybody knows anything about consensual science, it means that, scientist want a theory to be true, if no facts or theories fit the bill, and if experiment results are offered that are against their belief, it is ignored, It's made a consensus and agree a common agenda because of cherry picking evidence. sorry but sod em
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Welcome To The Machine!

There's plenty of sensible and realistic information around which is *finally* filtering through to the ADA though I expect DUK to take another ten years. You only have to look at their sponsors to see why low carbing and reduction in medication/insulin is NOT an alternative

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