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Why not take into account well recognised theoretical perspectives.

GerryM33

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Don't show me a child with rotten teeth. Don't show me horrific pictures on my cigi packet because if they are too horrific, I will ignore then. Don't show me someone coming out of hospital with a leg missing and thanking all the staff. (could have been due to a bad aseptic procedure and not the original condition eg diabetes)
The theory of Cognitive Dissonance (Festinger) is well documented and appears at level 101.
Take this with the concept that everyone is difference (and without paying 'lip service' to the notion) and we might advance even further with Diabetic.co.uk. Certainly, peoples experiences are very helpful to learn about, the attempts at empathy are well received. BUT as a unique organism they are not 'talking about Ya'.
Diabetes.co.uk which would not exist without 'you' is, fantastic because no alternative exists.
'Medicine' is truly a 'practice' and emerging profession. Humility often not its best feature but, I thank medically qualified members of Diabetes.co.uk for all their efforts to understand 'what the hell is going on'. Genetic studies offer great hope.
 
What carries forward knowledge here is the experience , and the generous sharing of that experience, of the members. Most of whom are not medical professionals. Just people with diabetes, getting through life.
 
Welcome, by the way, @GerryM33.
Have you read @daisy1 's information for new members yet? She will post it here now I have alerted her.
 
@GerryM33

Hello Gerry and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
My frustration is that we diabetics or, any disease/illness and everybody is put in to the bracket "this works for diabetics", not seeing people as an individual.

Here, we do talk about experiences and what has or has not worked for an individual, so no carpet laid out with "average" emblazoned on it.

I welcome genetic studies for future generations, but progress isnt at the forefront, is it because manufacturers of meds make too much profit with meds to treat rather than stopping the illness developing??

Medicine as pharama industries has only really taken off in recent generations.. so in the whole scheme of things is really in its infancy...

I am certainly grateful for members here, I dont know what I would have done without individuals knowledge.

Certainly here, you can get far greater detail regarding the intricacies of closed loop insulin pumps and for sensors which you could not get from manufacturers or the medics that are trained by the reps of these companies.

We do talk about our individual selves and we are listened to here. Medics and pharma industries don't actually learn info from the people that self manage themselves individually, to me it is rare for any of them to say "you have survived for 50 years +, what has worked for you?" We are the first real generation where real experiences of what does work could be given, but few in the industries ask or listen. We are the real life guinea pigs but what works is not being listened to and studies rarely look at those that are doing okay.

It is a shame that genetic studies are not at the forefront and that industries are still making money and concentrating more on the mice testing to just manage illnesses..

At least, thats how I feel about meds.

Very interesting topic.
 
Hi Gerry and welcome

If I share an experience of 44 years on insulin and someone follows what I did and it worked for the better but this failed for someone else?

In my humble opinion this forum is about hard facts and experiences and I have to confess I don't fully understand your post however it got my brain going which can only be a good thing.

All the best

Tony
 
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