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Wife of type 2 diabetic

Button96

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Hi I'm new to this forum looking for some advice so I can support my husband who was diagnosed earlier in the year.
He's on metformin and gliclazide and has a blood glucose monitor to test as when needed.
His post meal sugars are normally 6-7 but he tested an hour after breakfast today and it was 9.7,
We are struggling to get our heads around what to eat and what to avoid; looking at going down the low carb route but would really appreciate some dietary advice.
Thank you
 
@Button96

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helps you to help your husband. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thank you; I think we are just struggling with what carbs to eat; have read a lot about the low carb high fat diet but very confusing, we think his blood sugars are generally down but due another hba1c soon
 
Hi @Button96 Welcome to the supporting forum. Low carb would certainly help.

What foods have you tried and any dislikes?
 
Hiya, it's my husband I'm looking for advice for; we have switched to granary bread: we eat all freshly prepared meals he enjoys veg, potatoes, pasta etc, eats weetabiz or bran for breakfast and a healthy lunch. His blood sugars seem to have been much better but his blood sugar being a bit high this morning worried him. Plus he took his metformin and gliclazide at least an hour before food whereas he normally takes them at the same time as breakfast
It's so hard to like what to do
 
@Button96, I'm afraid that some of that diet is not suitable. Granary bread, potatoes, pasta, weetabix would all spike my blood glucose. Have a look at the thread 'what have you eaten today' plenty of suggestions in there.
Carol
 
Seems like your husband is heading in the right direction and keep up the testing. It will be a trial and error approach but in small doses when changing food types. Weetabix and granary bread could spike the blood glucose.
 
I am currently putting a list together of the norm and unusual that I have tried. When you first look at low carb diet, and the most common all look boring :)

Will be right back with some of my suggestions.
 
Hi - having been on Gliclazide to no avail (but then I was relying solely on that and avoiding sweet things),I decided to test my blood at varied times over a week and found certain patterns. I recorded food/drink on the left, time in the middle and readings taken if any on the right. In not time it became apparent that toast was doing crazy things to my levels. After a bit of research, I informed my doctor I was coming off the pills and focusing on diet. I soon identified what was causing problems by testing before and two hours after I ate. Now, on a very low carb diet my levels are way better. Its not just sugar content thats the pain - its carb content coz carbs we dont burn off through activity and exercise have the same impact a sugar. We all differ a bit but there's some pretty clear things to avoid or seriously limit - BREAD (any kind really), cereal (weetabix has lower sugar level than say cornflakes but still has carbs which push my levels a bit), potatoes (chips, crisps), veggies which grow above ground, pasta, bananas and some fruits. Good stuff - avacado and asparagus have good impact on sugar levels (eat plenty), cheese generally, eggs, meat, fish without batter, broccoli, spinach, cauliflower....there's a lot really. For breakfast I have slices of smoked cheese and some of these dried bacon strips (no carbs in that at all), lunch an avacado maybe some leafy salad, I can cope ok with some salami, some cold meats...basically, explore....and test to see what increases the level and what has least effect. you husband's levels aren't too wild. I was getting up to 15 and 16 before the low carb diet and now I'm seldom over 8 and usually around 6-7. still not perfect but much much better, and that's on no meds. Advice - cut the carbs rght down and you will see a difference. Obviously don't ditch any meds without talking with a doctor at length first - we are different. The secret is to test and record, test and record....oh and....an hour after a meal is not long enough to really judge impact...I'm sure the level at an hour after food will be lower 2 hours after food, and 2 hours is what everyone seems to recommend. I am aiming at 8.5 at maximum 2 hours after a meal, and have been advised to eat to my meter and try to avoid spikes of more than 2 mmols after a meal. the advice - ha snot come from doctors! They tell you not to test too much (in case it pisses you off) and to eat a range of carbs and fruit etc etc. Fine - but not what will lower sugar levels. This site has been fantastic as a source of info and advice. Experiment..Good luck. tell him - loads and loads of people are lowering their levels through informing themselves and there's definitely progress to be made.
 
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