JohnEGreen
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Cattle are efficient in turning grass (cereal) into a lot of products.
Great meat from the right breed.
Milk into a shipload of dairy products.
Hides into leather shoes, furniture and car seat covers.
Blood and bone into one of the best fertilisers going to get the grass growing.
Rinse and repeat...
*Except for locusts. I draw the line at insects, no matter how nutritious.
I forgot about whey, I watched a reality farm show River Cottage where they gave whey to the pigs to get them going.And of course the milk is used to produce whey the whey fed to bacteria from which they produce vitamin B12 supplements for the vegetarians and vegans to take so they don't have to eat meat to maintain health.
Edited to make more sense if it does that is
Cattle are efficient in turning grass (cereal) into a lot of products.
Great meat from the right breed.
Milk into a shipload of dairy products.
Hides into leather shoes, furniture and car seat covers.
Blood and bone into one of the best fertilisers going to get the grass growing.
Rinse and repeat...
Insects are one of the few animals I *can* eat, and I do quite often. Nicely spiced, locusts make fantastic snacks!And that is exactly my attitude*.
With a second lesser guideline that I will avoid foods that I am convinced will harm my health.
*Except for locusts. I draw the line at insects, no matter how nutritious.
Let's hypothetically say everyone chose to go vegan or vegitarian..
Would livestock wind up on the "endangered species list??"
Whey protein is widely used in bodybuilding / weight training / HIT etc. It does not surprise me that it is a source of B12, but is it vegan?????I forgot about whey, I watched a reality farm show River Cottage where they gave whey to the pigs to get them going.
Most supplements come with a vegan alternative, my B vitamins are vegan. If I need a protein boost with powders, I use pea protein.Whey protein is widely used in bodybuilding / weight training / HIT etc. It does not surprise me that it is a source of B12, but is it vegan?????
https://www.vegansociety.com/resour...hat-every-vegan-should-know-about-vitamin-b12
As far as I know vegans think so as it is the source of the B12 supplements along with the fermentation process of bacteria as bacteria are not classed as animals they don't matter.Whey protein is widely used in bodybuilding / weight training / HIT etc. It does not surprise me that it is a source of B12, but is it vegan?????
https://www.vegansociety.com/resour...hat-every-vegan-should-know-about-vitamin-b12
As it is an animal by product, I would assume it is not vegan.but is it vegan?????
So are witchetty grubs, they are not bad raw as well.Nicely spiced, locusts make fantastic snacks!
What do locusts live on? Crops and grass. Having lived in N Africa and witnessed them swarming, then I suggest that using them as a food source for humanity requires a lot of feed crops just for them, They can strip a field in minutes. If I was given a bush tucker trial I would choose the bush, nuff said.Insects are one of the few animals I *can* eat, and I do quite often. Nicely spiced, locusts make fantastic snacks!
But vegans decry honey because it is animal produce so how come ruminant output suddenly becomes acceptable?As far as I know vegans think so as it is the source of the B12 supplements along with the fermentation process of bacteria as bacteria are not classed as animals they don't matter.
As far as I know vegans think so as it is the source of the B12 supplements along with the fermentation process of bacteria as bacteria are not classed as animals they don't matter.
Is an ant farm vegan if it supplies snacks in aspic or chocolate? Or is that exploitation and cruelty?As it is an animal by product, I would assume it is not vegan.
So are witchetty grubs, they are not bad raw as well.
What do locusts live on? Crops and grass. Having lived in N Africa and witnessed them swarming, then I suggest that using them as a food source for humanity requires a lot of feed crops just for them, They can strip a field in minutes. If I was given a bush tucker trial I would choose the bush, nuff said.
Green ants are a favourite with indigenous people here in Australia and form part of their diet.Is an ant farm vegan if it supplies snacks in aspic or chocolate? Or is that exploitation and cruelty?
Nothing wrong with fresh road kill if your hungry.If a cow drops dead of old age is it OK to eat it apart from it would not be particularly appetising or is road kill ethically ok as the animal has not been killed for food I
There is one thing I have never really been able to get straight, is the ethical opposition to meat eating about the meat it's self or the means of production.
If a cow drops dead of old age is it OK to eat it apart from it would not be particularly appetising or is road kill ethically ok as the animal has not been killed for food I know Siddhārtha Gautama thought so as he instructed his followers that as long as an animal had not been slaughtered expressly to provide them a meal it was OK to eat it..
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